8/12/18 Sunday Supp: Getting the Right Amount of Protein on Keto

Today's question comes from Greg who wants to know about protein ratios. Specifically, he wants to know if Eric has experimented with more than 1.2 grams per pound of lean muscle mass? So...what does that mean, and what's Eric's answer? Tune in to find out!

How to figure protein ratios based on your body weight.

Finding that right protein balance.

What happens when you overdo protein consumption? And what effect does it have on your kidneys?

Getting yo' leucine!

Always need to be aware of tipping into gluconeogenesis.

The metabolic set-point is different for everyone.

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Chad: 00:06 So we're getting a lot of questions regarding the proper way to live life in ketosis. We have you covered in our midweek mini series called Sunday Supps. Every Sunday we have a quick supplemental episode where we answer your questions on all things Keto. So our question today comes from Greg and Greg asks, have you done any studies with excess protein? Say over one point two grams per pound of lean mass. What are your thoughts? So I think this sounds like a good question, but first, Eric, you're going to have to tell me what he's actually asking. Like I get that he's asking about excess protein, but what does this mean? Like one point two grams per pound of lean mass, what are we talking about?

Eric: 00:50 Protein of course is as vital for the body and we all know why. Okay. Um, and most people always reference it to protein synthesis of muscle building or recovery or regeneration of muscle tissue. Okay? But it has way more roles in that which we want me to get into, but everything's based on, on basically the standard is a off a body weight. Okay. And so, you know, even we have our own recommendations here in the United States and I think there's just like point eight grams per kilogram. Okay. Uh, but that, I think that works out to like a third, like 36 grams per pound. Okay. So basically it's saying like myself, use me as an example. I'm 145 pounds I going off that I would probably need about a and some will go one gram per kilogram. Okay. And that would be 65. Uh, I weigh 65 kilograms, so it'd be 65 grams of protein.

Eric: 01:57 So we're all basing it off your body weight sizes, how that's a rule of thumb and more as you should base it off your lean muscle tissue, how much you really have. And so I've, I've experimented from being Vegan from 40, 45 grams of protein a day all the way up to 125 grams of protein a day. Uh, and I did do 150, which is one gram per pound of body weight. And I never, I never felt good. Okay. So there is a balance of protein, a couple of reasons. One is in, in, in protein, in any amino acids, in a protein bill, and you're going to have nitrogen. So basically if you overdo your, your protein consumption, you're going to have more, uh, nitrogen being excreted through the kidneys, et cetera. And sometimes that can be a little rough on the kidneys. You began too much nitrogen because remember, your amino acids attached is an, the protein is nitrogen.

Eric: 03:00 Uh, you can get rid of the amino acids, your nitrogen has to go, all right, and has to be excrete in, um, so anyway, so what you're trying to do with your proteins, your obviously, you know, we've got 20 amino acids and you're trying to create these, these chains of amino acids which will be proteins. All right? And so like if you're really into lifting and doing a lot of that, then I would just recommend you getting a little extra more leucine because that really is the amino acid that initiate protein synthesis as far as muscle growth and poor pathway. So there's a way to, to manipulate just the various amino acids. Okay, so you really have to play with it and see where your goals are. Remembering, keep in ketosis. If you're going to get too much protein, obviously you're going to go gluconeogenesis on that and that excess protein's going to be converted to glucose.

Eric: 03:49 Okay. Which will knock up your insulin and knock you out of Ketosis so that you have to play with a little bit. And that's what happened to me when I went up to 1:50 to test it out. I basically was getting knocked out of ketosis completely, so I was going Gluco on that and I couldn't utilize that protein because your body is only going to utilize what it, what it can use and need and just, if you're afar jake and just not doing much at all, then your protein needs to be a lot less than if you're very, very active. Okay. So you've got to play with it a little bit.

Chad: 04:23 Yeah. So interesting. So the answer really is that it's different for everybody and yes, you have done some experimentation. Yes, you can get too much protein, but it's, it's a different, uh, what do you call it? Uh, uh, like a, what do you call it, your metabolic adaptation point? Yeah, metabolic set point. Yeah. Um, it's different for everybody, especially when it deals with protein. So that's awesome.

Chad: 04:50 Also, I wanted to mention before we close this conversation, thank you for that and thanks for biohacking with us. I do want to mention really quick something that has got us super stoked but also has got us very tired. We've been working a lot of late nights on it, especially you through research and all that kind of stuff is bioStak. We're, we're releasing a stack. It's different than a supplement. Supplement is incomplete. A supplement is something that you have to buy. Multiples of.

Chad: 05:19 This is a stack. This is something that is complete, um, and, and designed specifically for low carb and Keto, a nutrition plans and super excited. It's going to release the end of August and the next couple of weeks and it's gonna be a limited run at first that were only offering to our podcast listeners and our instagram followers. Those two, two places, the only place we're going to talk about it, so if you're a podcast listener, regular whatever, and and you want to optimize your keto experience through nutrition and vitamins and all of the things that need go to biostak.com. That's B I o s, t a k, (no c), so b i o s t a k.com. Check it out, get on our list. For the early bird you can be a part. If you're a podcast listener, you can be a part of the first run and this is awesome. Eric. This is three years in the making,

Eric: 06:22 the sound I'm so excited about and I've worked so hard on this and I've been at this for three years of stalking and biohacking and I have worked the most powerful components together and I have actually been on this almost up to three years when I finally got the stack finally put together and and these, these components working together in synergy. Basically there is nothing out there that comes close to this and I'm not. I'm just not. If you see the stacks of research papers and piles and piles of self experimenting in the stacking I've done for the last three years, you, you, you'd be amazed and I, I can't say enough about it. So anyway, I better keep it short, but I am so excited about this. So funny to come out and hit because it's,

Chad: 07:08 we could do it and we could do an entire podcast just on the stack.

Eric: 07:15 I mean this is stuff that's going to help everybody. So I won't, I won't.

Chad: 07:18 Absolutely. It's fantastic. So biostak.com, get on our list, be an early bird adopter. You'll get in on the first run. And uh, it is a limited run because of the expenses that it takes to launch a stack supplement like this. Um, we're, we're running at limited first so that people can get it. See how it amazing it is. And then we can. And then we can order anyways.

Eric: 07:44 Talked about sulforaphane. It's just all that stuff I talked about guys.

Chad: 07:50 It's incredible. All right, so thanks again for biohacking, Eric. You Bet. And I want to thank you for joining us on this quest for optimal fitness. If you're ready to be in your own journey and live your life in Ketosis, be sure to check out biofitcoaching.com or biofit coaching on instagram. That handle is @biofit_coaching. You can also link in the show notes and until next time, stay keto.