7/18/18 E47 Biohacking Your Genetic Expression to Optimize Nutrition and Fitness

What if there was a way to look into the future and see any potential health problems you might encounter? And what if by doing so you could begin to live your life differently NOW to avoid those health problems? Would you do it? Well, that technology exists TODAY! The field of genetics has grown rapidly over the past few years and continues to expand at incredible rates. Today Eric discusses how to use this genetic technology to our advantage and answers the question: Can you change your future?

The advances in the field of genetics.

What does genetic testing look like?

The tests and services offered by 23andme

Finding out disease-risk, nutrition-risk, toxins-risk, addictions-risk and more!

Why should we bother looking at our genetic expressions?

How your genes are NOT your destiny! Manipulating your genetic blueprint.

Family history is an important element to understand.

Hacking your genetic expression!

Should you have your kids tested?

And a special NEW offer from Eric to help people understand their genetics!

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Transcript:

Eric: 00:00 That's what happens when you're born in 1956, you know, smoking was saying, hey, it's good for you. You know, it's, it's a stress reliever.

Chad: 00:06 They say a Journey begins in a single step, or in my case, one less piece of bread.

Chad: 00:16 My name is Chad and I'm your test subjects. I have sought out an expert in the field of nutrition and fitness who I hoped it helped me feel better. They call him the biohacker, but I call him Eric. I hope you'll join me on a path that leads you and I to optimal fitness as we live our lives in ketosis. This is the life in Ketosis podcast, a biohackers guide to optimal body performance.

Chad: 00:49 Hello everyone. My name is Chad and this is my quest to achieving optimal body performance with the man that can get me there. The biohacker himself. Mr Eric Bischof every episode. Eric gives us his crazy intense sciencey knowledge and I break it down with my regular non crazy guy take as we explored the principles of ketogenics and KPR performance training. Whether you're just looking for a way to feel better or if you're an elite athlete looking for that edge. We're here to help. And today we're talking about genetics. This is, uh, this, this episode's a long time coming, Eric, and uh, it is a giant old topic. So we're going to try to condense it into what we feel are the most important points to, to hit or what you feel are the most important points to hit as we talk about genetics, genetic testing, interpretation and utilization of that information because we have a really cool technology available to us, but the problem is that most of us regular guys and gals don't know what to do with it, let alone know how to read it. Um, and so I think that's the biggest disconnect between this cool technology that we have now when it comes to genetics and how do we actually use that. We take it beyond just cool and something that we can actually use, right?

Eric: 02:10 Yes. Yes. It's it, you know, I've talked about rabbit holes and how many scientific studies and all that stuff I do and I chased down rabbit holes after rabbit holes and I tell you what, in the field of genetics and working with SNP's, mutations, people's, uh, reports, I've been down more rabbit holes in my doing this and anything else in my life. So it is, it is so time consuming. And so one thing leads to another because it's basically new science. Sure. That genome project we know how many genes we have 25,000 genes and now the sequencing has becoming bigger, like 23andme and there's other companies that do the sequencing of the genes and it's, it's just getting. But the data and the information, we're still at the surface kind of. So uh, you just have to do more digging and more digging.

Eric: 03:08 And so anyway, it's a lot of rabbit holes. I'm telling you. I and I spent many hours working on this stuff.

Chad: 03:16 So before we get into the weeds, it's possible that some of our listeners aren't aware of what genetic testing is available. Who does it, how much it costs, how long does it take? Could you just give us a very brief overview of what genetic testing today looks like that.

Eric: 03:35 So basically I'm the one. There's companies out there that do it. Okay. But the main company and they advertise and I think everybody's heard of them as 23andme. Okay. And so, and included in that, don't get confused. They do have an ancestry, uh, where they just check your, uh, your, your ancestry or at the same time basically they're two separate things. One is genetic and the next is just do an ancestral. So the 23andme, real simple.

Eric: 04:01 It's $199 sometimes on sale for 150. So it's a test kit they send to you. And all my clients that I coach and manage it, it's real simple. You send for it, it's a saliva and blood. Okay. So you go ahead and spit and send it back and you know, they're pretty backed up. I think most of my clients who are running about six weeks now for the turnaround and then they'll send you an email and then your report is, is completed and so they 23andme, gives you a basic report so they'll show you some, you know, your traits and some of your genetic variations. If it's disease oriented, some of the, you know, maybe seven or eight of the basic ones and then they'll give you a report. But like I said, it's, it's simple to get done. But then now you have this in front of you and like you said in the beginning, now we get to the interpretation.

Eric: 05:01 So they tell you, yeah, you're good here. You're good here. No variant here. Let's say the word variant mutation. Okay. So real quick just to make sure everybody knows everybody out there is, is, is, you know, 46 chromosomes, 23 pairs. All right? So the pairs, remember we have 25,000 genes. You're going to get one from your, your, your father and one from your mother obviously. Okay. And so those are the ones that are going to be reported. So within that you can get, you know, there's good that there's variance, so you can have what we call the homozygous. I've talked about the heterozygous or there's normal. Okay, so you're going to get one of those from each year. Your father or your mother. All right? So hopefully you're going to get the good ones and, but included, we're always going to get, you know, a variant that's not so good.

Eric: 05:49 It doesn't mean all variants are back, some are good, some actually do some good in, in some different pathways, but the ones we're looking for, the SNP's, we call them single nucleotide polymorphisms. So those are what we're looking for. So when I say hair, heterozygous means you got one, one bad one and the other one's normal variant. And then if I say homozygous, that means you've got a double whammy. You've got them both, you know, one from each that that are more negative. Okay? So that's what we're looking at and these are done, you know, finally, you know, I'm a numbers guy. I love, I'm big numbers, everything's numbers to me and it's just the more, the more I can obtain in numbers in my life, I just chased numbers and finally with a, you get reported, but it's actually just four letters. It's a t, G and C, so those, those are what you're given and it's just like, that's your genetic code.

Eric: 06:46 And a certain series of those letters together means a genetic expression. Okay. So just like a word, if you mix up letters in a word or something, it, you're not going to be able to understand it. It, it's not going to be. Right. Okay. So they're like a mutation. And so now that I've been planning these letters, they just, I mean, I dream about these letters actually because I'd tell him dealing with his letters now. So, so it's a big difference from numbers, but uh, that's what we're dealing with is, is the sequencing of these letters. All right? And those are going to be your genetic expression, right? So that's just your communication, right?

Chad: 07:27 So it is, I mean, so somebody goes and gets his test and a couple hundred dollars and it doesn't take six weeks or so, and then they have these results, right? This is what you're talking about is these numbers or these, these combinations of letters, heterozygous.  And so you, you pay this money, you get this packet, you get this results. Now what?

Eric: 07:53 Okay, so that's, that's the big thing. And when I coach this and, and I've coached over 50 of these and it's, it's a lot of in depth, okay? It's not a one, it's not even one hour conversation. It takes months of one hour, you know, a month or two of our conversation's gonna go through and I got to go through all these traits. So let's say I've got to look at your disease risk of all these certain, you know, disease risks. I got to look at your nutrition risk, okay? What nutritional nutrients that, you know, you could be calling deficient or it could be vitamin a deficient or, or any of the, um, um, uh, minerals, iron, etc. And I got to go through your fats, your triglycerides, saturated lactose and your omega threes.

Eric: 08:37 There's so many categories and toxIns and drugs and, and so even in, even in your own, like your lifestyle, you know, if you're an endurance athlete or you know, you don't need to go to bed earlier, your sleep disorder and all the diseases and everything. So it, it's a lot of work because as a coach and as a, you know, I coached this, I got to pick out, go through everything and start to interpret what's important, you know, for, for you, for that client and what's the critical, you know, mutations that you need to be concerned with. All right. And so, and, and I asked this question to a lot of people. I mean like Chad, you, you've had your, your, um, your, your blood tested at the doctor, like blood lipids or, or you're a complete blood counts and everything else. How much time when you go to back to the doctor all, he's looking at his numbers and he says, hi, hi, normal, normal, whatever.

Eric: 09:36 He does a quick scan. You have eight minutes, 10 maybe. And so he doesn't even interpret your blood labs for you. He just says, hey, your questions like one seven day, you better get on statens, okay, almost sustainer your c reactive proteins high, let's do this. alright. And then you know, your blOod sugars, we better get you on, on, on some metformin or insulin. And so they look at numbers and then they, they prescribe, they give you a script. And my question is this, if you get your genes done and you have this report, go to your doctor and ask him and see how much time you're going to get. You're going To get eight to 10 minutes. You don't even get that with your, you don't even get a, an interpretation of your blood markers. You just end up with a script.

Eric: 10:26 And, and I'm not, I'm not ragging on doctors. It just, you know, they have a hectic schedule. They have a ton of patients. They probably have eight to 10 minutes with each patient and they don't have time to study this. I mean they don't even study nutrition. I mean, I, I have an oncologist, you know, client and the best time he has with all his patients, my gosh, he has to study, you know, like I said before, the pharmaceutical drugs that he has to be all on top of constantly. So anyway, I'm just saying you, like you said, it's the interpretation. Where do you go? And that's, that's the hard part right there, unless you get on the internet and start digging, but all those that I coach, it's something that they really don't want to do

Chad: 11:14 and the doctors are just, uh, it's, they're a victim of a broken system, right? They've got to deal with, they got to do to stay afloat inside the system that they've been placed in. Um, and that's unfortunate. So what you're saying is, you know, that's not really an option when it comes to interpreting these genes. And you know, one thing we haven't really addressed yet, eric, is what, why, why do we need to interpret these genes? What's the consequence? What's the potential consequence? Like you said, some people don't want to have their genes interpreted, some people really want to have their genes. What is the purpose? Why do we, why are we putting so much emphasis on our genes?

Chad: 11:54 Our genes, our genes, right? I mean, yes, we can't change them. We can't, you know, whatever. We're going to get into that a little bit later, but let's talk about why

Eric: 12:02 you have to say, okay, genetically what am I predisposed to? Okay. And most people have and you know, they're curious about it. Okay. And remember, your genes are not your destiny. Okay? There are a blueprint. We can manipulate them through gene x. You're not stuck with that gene expression, what's given to you, okay? It's just you have more of a tendency to go that way if you're, if you incorporate the wrong lifestyle and you're not doing the things you should be doing. All right? And so genetically I, I have genes all over the place that, that come back to me and say, you know, very simply, I, I should be a candidate for this, but I am.

Eric: 12:42 I'm the opposite from due to my lifestyle. Okay, and so with most people when you're, when they're thinking about it, some say hey, like my wife, she refuses to have it done. if she says in her own words and I'm not, she says, I don't want the stress, I don't want to worry about anything and I don't feel I get depressed because you know, because when you get those results back, you're, you're hoping for all good news and in there, especially when I got mine back, I was really hoping for all good news and I had to go through it and really get deep. I'm like, oh yuck, yuck. It's like heart disease. I'm category you have. If you do all my SNP's and all my, all my genes and you categorize it and put a grade on it. Like some of the sites I work with, I'm a d on, on, on heart disease risk.

Eric: 13:32 I'm a d on cancer risk, so that wasn't really good news to me and so. But once I analyze and go through all of it and did really devour, then I can figure out why they're giving me that. Great, and what things to look for, what to avoid and those things. So my wife says, hey, I don't want to know eric. And then her second reason is because you're going to be all over me about my lifestyle. She goes, I don't need that because probably I would, you know, she's a pretty smart woman. She's pretty smart, you know, and so, you know, the motivation out there now is in the popularity of genetics when I talked to people is either there's a few genetic mutations that people are concerned about and it's like the bracca one bracca 2, okay, we're dealing with breast cancer and ovarian cancer.

Eric: 14:22 Okay. And so that, and that's popular. People are saying, hey, I have this, you know, the, the bracca one mutation, what do I do? You know, the angelina jolie and a few others had had the baraka one and brca two mutations. Those are two genes and they basically contained instructions for, for making proteins that fight tumors. Okay. And, and there's issues in your dna that are mutations and it helps, you know, correct those. And so a lot of people have that mutation in that that's going to take, take that away. And so that's a big thing for women today. They say, hey, if I have bracca, one and brca two, I'm going to have my breasts removed. And, and so there's a lot of women doing that. Insurance, you know, you, you do increase, if you do have the brca mutation, you can go from a baseline of like 12 percent up to 55 to 65 percent.

Eric: 15:20 And that's what the brca one. And the brca 2 run at 40, 45 percent. And an ovarian cancer. Remember this brca deals with ovarian cancer and, and that'll run the risk up to like 39 percent on the brca one and brca two, you know, probably about 20 percent. So what I'm saying is the brca one day and we have alzheimers, we have the apoe e four for everybody talks about it. Okay. So they want to know if they're going to get dementia or alzheimer's. All right. All right. So the mother effer gene that we talked about, the mthfr methylation, which you know, is something I recommend for everybody to get on top of their methylation. And I'm really big into that. So those are some of the popular things that people know about, but boy, when you do get your test and you dig deep into these, um, uh, mutations, you can really get lost into it.

Eric: 16:11 And, and I'd gone really deep Chad into mine, but, you know, and, and another reason, Chad, is why you do it. I, I, I have a mother that died of ovarian cancer at 63 years old and she was diagnosed and four years later she made it for years, um, which we worked really hard. She was diagnosed at stage four and still made it for years. And that, that kind of dove me into discovering why and the doctors missed it. They misdiagnosed him, but, you know, she died at 63 of ovarian cancer. And then my, um, my, uh, my, the mother of my kids, her mother died of ibc, which is inflammatory breast cancer. It's one of the most of dress of breast cancers out there and when it, when it in, it's totally different than the other breast cancers. It's not, it's not a typical breast cancer and it's more inflamed and the redness and it moved really fast through her and, and took her life in two to three years.

Eric: 17:14 So here I have, I have, uh, I have two daughters and I have both of their grandmothers died, one of ovarian cancer and one of ibc breast cancer. So of course as a father, these mutations get passed on and there's a concern. And so I had my one daughter, my oldest, she's 37 and so she wouldn't have her genes done. And I first thing I went for, you know, because remember we're, we're dealing with family history now and that's a big, um, part of, of your genetic issues as far as diseases. You've got to look at your family history that, that plays a big role of course. And so obviously that's a concern a lot of parents have because whatever mutations I have, if I'm homeless, I guess, you know, I had both. My kids are guaranteed to be heterozygous in that gene. They're going to get my, you know, I, I'm both bad so they're going to get the bad one.

Eric: 18:06 So depends on what they get from their mother. And my daughter is 37. She came out with her brca one and brca two all clean. And so that was really good news for me and my other daughter's getting hers done. So there is, you know, lIke you, you have a, how many daughters do you have? You have to. So if you had family history of, of a certain illness or a genetic disease that gets passed on can be passed on. It doesn't mean it's going to be expressed. I mean, would you, would, would you do it for yourself and then try to make sure your kids try to get your kids eventually to have it done or what do you think?

Chad: 18:43 Yeah, I think so. If there's something we can do about it, yes.

Eric: 18:49 That's the fixes. Okay. And that's what we can get into. We probably can on this one because we're going to get to know, but yeah, there is, there's lifestyle, there's environment, there's toxins and things that we need to avoid. And um, you know, it's, there's a lot of things that the, that we have to be concerned about, but some people if you know, if they have depression in a adhd and ocd or schizophrenia in their family, I have an uncle that was manic depressive and my, my, my father's brother and he was horrible. He was on lithium and, and we have some other. And my other aunt had severe depression and I said, oh great. You know, is this something I want to know if I'm prone to schizophrenia or depression and this kind of stuff. It's all those markers came back and you know, you'll look at it and, and, and you got to go through it and say, oh great, okay, I am prone to this, you know, depression or whatever. And, and I think it's, I, I'm a fan because then then you know, then you can deal with it and try to be coached or whatever and try to get the right nutrition and the exercise in them and staying away from the things that are going to promote it. Okay. right.

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Chad: 21:08 So, so we're not gonna be able to go into the fixes here because there's so many and it's really individualized and it doesn't really, it doesn't really do our time justice here it to, to do that. If people don't need to worry about those specific ones, right. are the ones that we end up touching on. So that's actually what you do with your clients. You, uh, your higher end bio fit clients, your biofitters. You also offered this to the fasted state crew that we just went through a three day fast with, which was awesome.  they all loved it, ate up there in the process of getting tests done and all that kind of stuff. So really I'm a huge part of your work is going through these genetic tests with your clients to help identify but then also um, put into use some daily practices through nutrition and exercise and all of that kind of stuff too. Maybe could we use the word hack genes a little bit

Eric: 22:07 and you're going to hack the expression. Okay. And so that's an, that's the hope of it. Okay. It's like I'm the cancer one. I ended up overall grade. I upload into all these different size and get all these, you know, the now sprayed down and then I compare prometheans to self decode, the genetic genie dish strategy. And holidays said I got piles and piles of reports and I came back really bad on cancer and it really bothered me.

Eric: 22:35 And my biggest fear was pancreatic cancer. Most people know, you know that, you know, the, I think the five year survival rate is eight percent in lung cancers, like 18 percent. So there is some bad cancers out there and I came up with a bad grade on my cancer and, and, and what I went through and analyzed it, it was all that was what I call it, the churn of five. She hrn a five and I think I'm saying that try to turn a five and I got homozygous in those double mutation which only nine percent of the population has this and I scored so bad on that. And so I finally got into that to say, hey, what is this? So it's basically a lung cancer. So that's why that's my biggest problem I have is lung cancer and it's an obviously the fix there is to not smoke, stay away from nicotine and that's what this is a that, that's that whole gene dealing with nicotine.

Eric: 23:32 And so I thought, well, I mean I, I'm happy about that because I'm not a smoker. Alright. I forgot my first 12 yeArs of my life I lived a vehicle in a house with two smokers that were two and a half, three packs a day. You know, with the windows rolled up. I mean, my, my dad was a camel smoker, my mom was a viceroy smoker and I had severe asthma attacks every year, two to three that put me to the hospital and uh, both my parents quit when I just was about to turn 12 years old and I never had an asthma attack since. But what I'm saying is how much smoke, you know, here I am, a prime candidate for lung cancer in here. I had 12 years of, uh, of secondhand smoke at, at close quarters. All right, these are your seat belts and windows are rolled up and you just, that was part of life.

Eric: 24:31 I was feeling really good when I discovered, ah, that's lung cancer, have to worry about that. Then I started thinking like, wow, I had 12 years of that, you know. But that's what happens when you're born in 1956, you know, smoking was saying, hey, it's good for you. You know, it's, it's, it's a stress reliever. But I have a lot of, you know, I, I have a lot of bad. I had a lot of SNP's that are of concern, but I'm not. And um, because of my lifestyle and there's things that are totally wrong, like, you know, I went through and did all my athletic performance and, and, and downloaded all that, studied it real hard. And, and a lot of that tells me, you know, I'm a lactate guy, right? I'm, you know, I always talk about lactate, high intensity and it says, I definitely have the gene genetic structure for slower ability for lactate.

Eric: 25:15 I'm like, what are you kidding me? It says I have the one ga and I have aCt act in three. I have all these others, you know, the arb and I think the age ifa I studied these and um, and it tells me that I'm not, I am not a high intensity lactate person. And I, and I, that's how I teach. So strange. I'm more endurance and it does, it all shows endurance. I, you know, some of the highest tested, um, mutations that a confidence score is just all endurance. But I've actually, I can argue and I can prove it that the, the strength and you know, I'm a, you know, it was a 350 pound bencher and explosive and it says, no, no, no, no, you know, so a lot of those through training, through lifestyle, it doesn't mean it's going to express that way. Okay.

Chad: 26:13 That's another question I had for you. Is that okay, so this is coming from you. You're now 62, well into living and expressing some of these mutations, some of these SNP's. Is it too late? Is it, is it worth it even at your age to, and I don't mean that don't mean that rudely, but is it, is it worth it? It is pointed to explore.

Eric: 26:38 That is a really good question because every disease, I mean it when you think about it. Okay. Um, everything is age related. okay. And so all the numbers come out as far as, you know, alzheimers, um, it, it always affects you after the age 65. Okay. So one in 10 adults are going to get like alzheimer's by 65. But every it, it, it doubles after that. Okay. And then by 85 percent, 35, 40 percent people have it, so you know, with heart, heart attacks and you know, what are we going to have 720,000 a heart attacks this year or those admitted to the hospital with a heart issue.

Eric: 27:27 I mean it's, it's crazy, but it's all age related. So sooner or later after 60, this is when everything starts to go in and, and all my studies and all these reports I look at, it just doesn't look really fantastic for 60 and above. And so your question is great actually. And, and so I've had people ask me, well, well why? Why do you care? You're 60 something years old, are you really going to make any changes right now? And I'm like, well that's a good point. But it's, it's that attitude I have. As you know, I've never, it's never too late. I just take that in my mind and, and I work out hard and I eat good nutrition. I hope, you know, and I really wish I would have got into the beta hydroxybutyrate molecule that ketosis a long time ago, but you know, sooner or later, you know, alzheimer's, the leading, you know, heart disease, number one, death followed by cancer and you know, I think accidents like a number four.

Eric: 28:31 So hopefully maybe that's one way I'll go, but also alzheimer's that he's number six. So we have these that are coming at me at my age and everything multiplies after 60 and so good question, you know, but I, I, I push everybody that my age, they say, hey, you know, you get your telomeres tested in and see what lengthy are and then you'll know, uh, basically biologically where you're at. So chronologically I'm 62 but you know, if I get my telomeres check, maybe I'm at 50 or 48 or 50, I don't know, I can hope, but I still try to perform like a young guy and I still, I still push it. But that was a good question. And so those out there, I say let's, you know, there's no, there's no, there's still time and you know, and the way science is improving, uh, there's new techniques, there's new studies, there's new things coming out, new therapies, new treatments, so just, you know, hang on as long as you can and maybe something good will happen where alzheimer's, we find out how to beat that.

Eric: 29:40 THey call the amyloid beta a plaque issue on a lot of things with dementia and diabetes and things like that. Things are improving. So I don't think, you know, I think our longevity is going to be increased.

Chad: 29:56 What's, what's your take on having your kids tested in adolescence?

Eric: 30:00 I, I'm all for it. I'm actually really far because you can start to manipulate their environment. Okay. Let's say fatty acids, saturated fat, different things. They may be, you know, even with cholesterol, there's, there's adolescents that have familiar hypercholesterolemia and that's something that you need to take a look at. And then. And those are things I look for right away, especially in ketosis because we do up the fat content. So there's a lot of things like that. obesity, I look for those markers in, in, in, in, in the children I would look for or diabetes.

Eric: 30:36 Uh, those, um, any other diseases I, I definitely would do it for sure, you know, and if, if I had it all to do over again, I'd have all my kids tested and, and don't get overwhelmed by it. Just remember it's not their destiny. But as a parent you can start to control their environment before they're out on their own and start to manipulate it a little bit. So I have a brother in law that I think his son is almost two years old and I think he's going to do it and I'm trying to get my grandkids and I think my, my one sentence going to do his one boy. And so we, you see certain traits now or certain, you know, um, you know, personality and things that they do if there's, you know, you know, and things we have to watch for with kids and know depression, anxiety, ocd.

Eric: 31:28 I don't know, I, I'm really trying to get on top of that with the youth and the young, the young, a younger generation and it just so big it's happening all the time. The suicide stuff is really bothering me a little bit, so. All right, I'm the guy. You just want to get into it that way. You know, I tried to get to the puzzle and put all the pieces together. That's what I'm trying to do and I learned a lot. Chad and I, I continue, I don't know everything and I'm not your doctor. I'm not the doctor or something. I will refer you to your doctor and I just hope they can help basically that they can invest in their patients enough to help and I hope, I hope it's changing, you know, and I think eventually there's going to be more genetic coaching and more of those that are gonna really get into it deep two to really analyze and, and help people and give them a path, a path. Okay. That's all. Yup. Yeah.

Chad: 32:29 Well, I do want to mention, especially as we wrap up here, I think we've given some really good information about what, what this, this 23andme genetic testing is and what people can actually  start doing about it or at least give them an idea that you can do something about it, right. Um, so I don't, I don't want to fail to mention again that this is something that you do with your clients. I'm also as a standalone service you're willing to offer. So that was pretty cool. So we set up a place where people can go biofitcoaching.com/genetic, um, and that singular. So www.biofitcoaching.com/genetic. And you can actually see the details of what eric offers as far as interpreting these tests and um, you know what that might mean for you. Excuse me, sorry. So I encourage you to go there. Take a look. The link is in the, in the, in the show notes, and you can link directly to that page and take a look at what eric does, what these genetic tests. But um, thanks so much, eric, for, for biohacking with.

Eric: 33:33 Yeah, I, I, I, I appreciate it. And if it's a subject that I love and I have a passion for it and hey, you know, I have a lot of bad SNP's that I'm dealing with, but you know, I, I, I've taken on as a challenge and I'm figuring out the fixes and, and it's a spend are interesting study. It really Has been, at least you have awareness, right? Yeah, that's I and I recommend it, those, you know, like my wife, I, I still, I'm not given up. I'm fencing gonna, you know, because she's seen the changes that I'm making in my lifestyle to, you know, I'm getting a tip I'm getting, I'm getting a little tip on, on, on my health. So I had a grandfather had a heart attack, so I'm on top of it.

Chad: 34:24 No longer has to be a mystery.

Chad: 34:26 That's right. Alright. So I want to thank you for joining us on this quest for optimal fitness as well. If you're ready to begin your own journey and live your life and ketosis, be sure to check out biofitcoaching.com. And I'll also plug biocoaching.com/genetic here just because it's topical, um, or biofit coaching on facebook. Also, if this podcast has helped You at all, uh, encouraged, you, entertained you, we encourage you to go to itunes and consider leaving a five star rating and a review, a glowing review that tells people what the podcast is about and what you get out of it. That way we can grow our community here. Until next time, stay keto.