Does having a coach really help you keep your health and fitness goals? That's a question the guys discuss as they talk keto and accountability. Eric also shares some of his experiences as a coach and trainer and what he does to keep clients on track.
Where do most people fail?
Transforming a dream into a reality - the crucial step.
Getting back to the all-important why.
What are the biggest issues Eric sees in his coaching?
What's the point of a food journal?
Learning accountability to yourself first and foremost.
Putting your coach or accountability partner to the test!
Using social media as an accountability tool.
How to pay it forward.
A good accountability partner is crucial to achieving your goals in every aspect of life. Someone that can keep you motivated and encouraged, especially when things get rough. Don't go at it alone!
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Chad: 00:00 They say a journey begins in a single step, or in my case, one less piece of bread.
Chad: 00:10 My name is Chad and I am your test subject. I have sought out an expert in the field of nutrition and fitness who I hoped would help me feel better. They call him the biohacker, but I call him Eric. I hope you'll join me on a path that leads to optimal fitness as we live our lives in ketosis. This is the life in Ketosis podcast, biohackers guide to optimal body performance.
Chad: 00:44 My name is Chad and this is my quest to achieving optimal body performance with the man that can get me there. The biohacker himself. Mr Eric Bischof. Every episode. Eric gives us his crazy intense "I ride my bike like a maniac in the sauna just to condition my heat, shock proteins, whatever that means," science-y knowledge, and I break it down with my regular non crazy guy. Take as we explore the principles of ketogenics and KPR performance training. Whether you're just looking for a way to feel better or if you're an elite athlete looking for that edge. We're here to help. Welcome to the life in Ketosis podcast and today we're talking about accountability. I want to ask you a question, Eric, and I guess now I've said that you're going to know the answer, but my question, the question I was going to start out with was in olive, your experience of coaching or watching other athletes probably not coaching because accountabilities built in.
Chad: 01:39 Um, but you know, watching other athletes or want to be athletes, try to condition and train and all that kind of stuff. Where do most of them fail? I'm going to guess it's an a lack of accountability.
Eric: 01:52 Yes. It's a very much show accountability in what, you know, obviously what drives that accountability is how much passion they have or what's the purpose behind what they're doing and why and how important it is. Because usually that's the driver right there. I have a lot come to me with like, I want to do a marathon or I want to train for an iron man. And I'm like, OK, now the hard part begins going to train. And they're like, that's where it stops, you know, if they're really sharing, you know, how bad you want it and how much pain do you know the sacrifice and time to go through.
Chad: 02:30 So through some of the, some of my training and some of my, you know, life experiences I used to teach, um, I actually had a film school that I took all over the country and it had a lot of dreamers come to know and talk to me about what they want to do with their film work and the photography and stuff like that. And it was, I could always tell their level of commitment by how many layers of accountability. Because once you set up a layer of accountability, that's when Your Business, right? That's when you're jumping in, that's when you're grabbing some other resource, whether it's a human, a program, a journal. We're going to talk about all of these, but I can always tell as soon as I ask them, OK, who are you accountable to? If you're going after this thing, who are you accountable to? And if they tell me one layer, I'm still iffy, right? I'm, I'm still not a believer if they tell me, you know, two, three or four layers, I'm a, you're on the right track. Exactly. Or you're on your way to success because that accountability, that kind of padding inside your accountability is going to keep you on the right track.
Eric: 03:39 And I always saying and doing are so far apart so far. You know, there's a lot of saying out there, but if you're going to do it, how much doing are you going to do? And it's always the breaker that's, that's the deal breaker right there. Everybody says they're going to do something, but how many people actually do it? Right on your. It's a great. I know podcasts about accountability and you're spot on.
Chad: 04:05 So accountability is your entire profession, which is pretty interesting. And can you just talk a little bit about some of the accountability that you set up for your clients and why each of those layers of accountability is beneficial to the athlete or the person who's, who's working with you? Yes.
Eric: 04:25 First of all, I, in just starting, I've got to try to hear what's behind their motivation. What's, what's the reason, what's the why, what's the passion? Do they really have to have real intent about this or is this just a passing thing that to say, I did this or I think I'm going to do this nice idea, an idea, you know, of course everybody wants it, but how bad do you really want it? All right, so then I've got to focus in on all write a training plan. Obviously, you know, then we've got to go through all the, you know, the obviously in, in elite or just in therapeutic, you're going to have nutrition, you're going to have exercise, you're going to have movement, you're going to have mental struggles to go through. People you know, are always fighting with depression or anxiety through, through any type of training for anything. OK? So you got to get to get to the root of it. And just the causal of why am I doing this? OK, and how bad do I want it?
Chad: 05:28 Yeah. So one of the layers of accountability that you employ as an accountability partner, basically that's what people are the majority of what people are hiring you for, right? Right. You're having weekly calls with them. What's the content of those calls and how are those. How is the content of those calls and those conversations, helping people stay on track
Eric: 05:48 in what it is. It's a way they can communicate to me and I know most of all where people are struggling because I'm looking at you know, their accountability through their nutrition and their workouts and I can always see from there what's not happening in a lot of times it comes down to the issues that we've got to really work with is as time everybody seems to be running short on time, everybody seems to be having high anxiety and anxiety, stress at work, too tired to come home. So there's a lot of those and family, which is a great thing. That's not a bad thing and that's, that's a great obstacle to have his family. So it depends on where their priorities are at that moment or that time, what they're trying to achieve. And I have to be careful because I don't want to push them out of their family circle. OK. Cause that's bad as I want. They want it, I want it for them. And so sometimes coaches just go too far and say, hey, you got to sacrifice. All right. If your kids have a ballgame, nope, this is your time. All right. You take care of yourself. Forget the family. And I'm really concerned about people making sure that part of it, the family and the important really the important things in life are there.
Chad: 07:04 Yeah. So I would say one thing that you are particularly very good at, as I've noticed as you've coached me, is yes, the, the dietary coaching is nice. You checking, you know, food journals and exercise journals and some of those things that will go into next. But one thing you're particularly good at is I could tell every time we talked you, were you getting a read on where I was with my mental state towards my goals, right? You were asking questions that really made me dig so that you could get a gauge on, OK, is he still in it or has he stepped out or is he on his way out or is he, you know, pushing it a hundred percent.
Eric: 07:49 That's true. That's true. But really it comes from. It's something that's not even thought about is because I believe I, I actually care. I actually, if I'm interested in, in your life, how it relates to our coaching and how it relates in your every day, every day living, it's important because I can't, I can't take you away from other parts of your life and I'm interested in your other parts of your life.
Chad: 08:19 Yeah. I would contest that. That layer of accountability where you have somebody who can get a good read on you and see where you're at in relationship to your goal on a weekly basis is really, really important. Um, and, and really, uh, helpful towards your, you know, your success, your path to success. So that's, that's, that's it. That's mostly what I wanted to say for accountability partners. So moving on to um, some of these programs or journaling or I know for your clients, everybody is on my fitness pal. Yes, right. They are journaling every that they eat,
Eric: 08:56 may they have to.
Chad: 08:57 What's the point of that?
Eric: 08:59 That I'm holding them to be accountable first to themselves to actually realize what their fueling with. Right. And then through that they learn, you know, what macros do this, what fat does this, you know, what protein is this amino acids, Collagen in glycine and different things. I sh, I use incorporate little by little because I'm one of those big that don't get it all at first because the sustainability gets over, you know, and some people think I'm just pushing stuff their way, but I've got to. Sometimes I'm a little slow to incorporate it because I don't think they're, they're disciplined enough yet. But um, they just learn as they go. So it's constant. I work with them on their macros. It takes tweaking because we're trying to bio-hack their macro. So if they're elite or therapeutic, doesn't matter.
Eric: 09:49 You're always trying to tweak it. Yeah, there's a lot of tweaking to do and I've learned, I've really learned a ton about macros from [inaudible] every morning I'm going through all these hours of people's macros and some people might really enjoy looking at their macros. So when people are like me, they're boring, boring, I mean the same thing every day, but I have a client in Qatar and she's fantastic. I love looking at hers. I have one in Austin, Texas. I love hers. I mean they actually teach me like, wow, why am I need to broaden it out a little because they're really getting a good spectrum of macros. I'm, I'm kind of easy on. Yeah, I'm, I'm really boring but, but, but it makes sure I'm covered.
Chad: 10:34 Those clients understand and know that they are not only accountable to you, but they're accountable to that journal. It holds them to it. So that's another layer of accountability that people can set in place to ensure success. Find some programs, whether it's my fitness pal, if it's a dietary, you know, goal or, or however you're measuring your success and keep records. The other thing that I did, um, throughout the process, probably the first six weeks of my Keto journey is I actually journaled my how I felt and things that I noticed because know we're kind of running together. I wanted to make sure that my time with you is as valuable as it as it, you know, as I was paying for whatever. And so I journaled for six weeks just making sure because once you get into a groove, like especially when you get in, when you go Keto, you can kind of get into that, get into that really like Nice groove, you know, have a lot of Beta to the brain and clarity and stuff like that. You can actually forget what it was like when you, before you started. So that journaling was another layer of accountability for me because I knew I was going to stick with it for at least six weeks because I was going to. I was putting you to the test.
Chad: 11:51 Yeah. And we succeeded big time.
Eric: 11:55 You know, it's kind of funny when we talked about that journalists have the fitness pal. I, it's interesting because on Sunday I, I take the day off so I don't do any. I get up at 4:00, start the journalist at 4:00, OK. The fitness pal on Sunday, I don't, I need a day. I really do. And it's kind of funny how people will, Eric's not checking on Sunday and all the sudden I see real, like no lunch put in deter. Some of them are just, they're hardcore and it's easy if you don't have somebody watching this kind of use. He's not looking to go back and look on Monday. I just don't comment about it because I gotta do I have to do um, a Sunday morning, but I don't do Saturday.
Chad: 12:38 And so I knew you were watching. I was, uh, I mean I lied a lot.
Eric: 12:45 Sometimes I see something on there like does he realize what he just put in these guys? You know, somebody, it's like he, he didn't eat that and there was no way. So funny.
Chad: 12:57 Another thing that I wanted to bring up, and this can be an incredible layer of accountability and people use it a lot these days. You know, there's, there's so much good or there's so much bad that comes with social media, but there's so much good and this is, this is one piece of really good, like a lot of goodness that can come from social media using it as an accountability system for any goal that you're going after. Um, you put that out there for all, for your network to see. And I mean, I don't know about anybody else but it drives me to succeed because I'm like, if I'm going to tell people I'm doing this, I'm going to do it. And uh, and I think that's a really cool thing is like a lot of people start instagram accounts or they share on facebook of their journey through these, some of these gold things, nutritional, um, you know, body aesthetics, compensation.
Eric: 13:50 We try that, go with them trying to get it on their ticket to more accountable. Like, Hey, I made it so we want people to support them. Friends or family, you know, and they need that additional support.
Chad: 14:02 Yeah. All of your clients are asked. You don't make them, but they're asked to to post a video on facebook of them starting talking about why the why they're doing it and talk about their why. You talk about why all the time and this is their commitment to the why a this is what's going to remind them when you talked about those days of depression or those days of discouragement or whatever. These are the. Those videos can be a huge tool for them in those dark times. To go back and say, oh my gosh, that's my wife and I look at him constantly say, all right, this is his wife. Oh my gosh. Some of the most beautiful videos on that page. Like if I was just seeing people. I mean some of these people are just so ready and you can feel their passion.
Eric: 14:46 It's emotional and it really is and you want it so bad for them and that's part of the coach's Eh, dilemmas you actually get you really care about. I thought about it so you actually. Sometimes you don't sleep because you know they're having issues and you're worrying about them and you don't get callused it kinda sucks. So yeah, I wish I was more of that hardcore coach just yell and scream and shout out whatever you know, out of mind. As soon as they're out of sight, I'm done. I don't want to think about it. Gave me to yell at you so much
Chad: 15:22 to see some of these commitment videos. They're pretty powerful. You can go to the BioFit coaching facebook page and that's where some of them live and in pretty impressive commitment videos there. So. All right, cool. So what happens once we succeed then we kind of, I mean w I s I think we always need, we always need accountability to something beyond that point, right? But once we hit a certain point or, or feel really good about some things that we've accomplished, my thing is, is if you have, if you've had tools that helps you stay accountable and reach a goal, you then turn around and pay that back. Got It. Find somebody to sponsor. I mean, there's a reason that, you know, ey uses this and, and it's a brilliant system, but as soon as you get to a certain point within the program, you never, you're never done. Right. That's the whole thing with a but, but you can then turn and become a sponsor for somebody else and help them through the journey. And you know, it's interesting and I'm sure I would love to hear your take on this. You and I have actually never talked about this outside away from the mix, but I think when you take the role of an accountability partner and somebody is accountable to you, there's a certain level of accountability for yourself that naturally comes. Right? Right. Eric can't be sitting on the couch and bon bons in watching the bachelor while his clients or you know what I mean,
Eric: 16:50 maple bars, but there's that added layer of benefits. I, you practice what you preach, what you're talking about. That accountability. When you take that role to somebody else and it goes back to that saying that there's, there's really no greater joy than serving somebody else. And I really believe when people do that and they experienced that joy from that is what goes around, comes around, it really does he carry it forward and then you really reaped the benefit to actually where that's more rewarding than what you just achieved. Right? It's kind of exciting and that's why I like coaching because yeah, I sometimes I, maybe I'm selfish, but I get a reward from it, you know, I do. I feel like sometimes I forget about my own training and then I say, wow, I'm, you know, I'm more with my own. And then I felt like, ah, you know, I got to today, I can't take the time to do this. I gotta train that sense of integrity. It's a battle
Chad: 17:54 sometimes that insensitive integrity because you don't want to be, you want to be practicing whatever you're asking people to directly. And uh, and I think that's an eight. I think most of us have that integrity naturally. And so once we, once we find some success and turn it in, decided to turn around and help other people find that success is going to naturally benefit us. For sure. Yeah. So my last point, or kind of to wrap all this up is I wanna I wanna be very clear, is that you're putting in place these layers of accountability does not ensure success, right? These aren't a crutch, these are an easy way. It's still takes grit, right? It still takes work, everything within you to stick to it. Um, but the accountability is just there to make sure that you're putting everything in. So as good as. I mean, you, you can have the best accountability system ever, but if you're, if you're not putting in the work, it doesn't do anything. It's uh, yeah, it's, it's fruitlessness. So, um, I mean that's.
Eric: 19:00 And it's sad because people pay, you know, sacrifice for that. I mean not, you know, they, they have to sacrifice their time and their, their family, you know, of course. I think they're sacrificed some of the food they, they used to think they really liked me. And it's a lot of effort, uh, and sometimes they don't see the results quick enough and that's a big obstacle I have to deal with because everybody wants instant gratification or success. Everybody's human nature. OK? But sometimes, you know, to undo 30 years, 20 years of bad nutritional feeding is, can't do it in 10 weeks, eight weeks. I try, but it takes time. Your hormones and your balance, we've got to get everything back to homeostasis and that's a whole another talk. But that's part of it. So don't get discouraged. That's the big thing.
Chad: 19:49 Yeah, absolutely. Anything else that you want to make sure people know about accountability or anything that you use with your clients to make sure that they remain accountable?
Eric: 20:00 Uh, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to always talk to them each week and they gotta get their coach calls into me and I actually look forward to those coach calls because then I can actually see how they're really doing. I do follow him, you know, I, I hold an account on their workouts to workout calendars. I see that every day as she, their, their macros every day. Uh, so there's communication through messaging back and forth everyday so that everything is accountability. It really is. And some people have the drive that they can do it temporarily without anything but whatever is driving that motivation, but sooner or later those days are going to come that why am I doing this? I mean the socks tired. And even I get those days where my training, I'm like, ah, you know, can people just relaxing.
Eric: 20:49 I'm out there at 4:30 in the morning. I'm like, why am I doing this? But boy, I always say to everybody, remember that feeling when you leave the gym or you're done with your workout? Just remember that feeling and next time you get to that point where you got to go work out, think of that feeling you had when you were done. There's not a better feeling. It'll take you there. Again, it will take you back to it.
Chad: 21:14 And you know what's. This is my final, final, final point. I already said I was making a final point, but I just want to, I just want to put this out there, is that any success is so much sweeter with your tribe around you, right? If you, if you accomplish something in a box, you know, and just if you're on an island, I mean that's great.
Chad: 21:36 That's awesome you did it, but how much sweeter, how much more gratifying is it when you have these people surrounding you that had been cheering you on, keeping you accountable, sometimes showing you a little bit of tough love and you accomplish it and they're there at the finish line with you like that? Nothing. I mean, nothing is more gratifying.
Eric: 21:59 That can be a motivation for them to say like, you have a Chad's doing it. I want to do it. If Chad can do it, I couldn't do it. It, it just has an effect on people. It's incredible. It's pretty exciting.
Chad: 22:14 Well, thanks for biohacking with us Eric.
Eric: 22:14 Thank you.
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