Meet a BioFitter! On today's episode, Janette joins Eric and Chad to discuss her own journey living in ketosis and seeking optimal fitness. She has been a client of Eric's for about a year now and shares her insight and experiences on this life-changing quest.
Janette shares her early years and the motivation behind her passion for fitness.
"How do I get arms like Janette?"
What Eric told her when she got in TOO good of shape.
Janette's initial approach to a keto diet was to try it for a couple months...so why is she still doing it a year later?
What hurdles she faced when switching to a ketogenic lifestyle.
"I can keep going all day long!"
The mantra Janette repeats to herself every day (way cool!)
How Eric has taught her to connect with her body through functional movement.
Janette's advice to anyone just starting out.
Don't miss this fun episode as you get to hear real-world experiences from someone who began the journey with some skepticism. What Janette has learned along the way is invaluable to those looking to get started AND those who are already underway.
Chad: 00:00 Hey listeners and friends of the podcast, I wanted to apologize right up front for the quality of the audio in this episode. This is the first time we've had three people on the show at one time and we had a little bit of technical difficulties recording the audio, so please excuse the mess, but enjoy the show. They say a journey begins in a single step or in my case, one less piece of bread.
Chad: 00:26 My name is Chad and I am your test subject. I have sought out an expert in the field of nutrition and fitness. I hope it helped me feel better. They call him the biohacker, but I call him eric. I hope you'll join me on a path that leads you and I to optimal fitness as we live our lives in ketosis. This is the life in Ketosis podcast, biohackers guide to optimal body performance. Hello everyone. My name is Chad and this is episode 13 of my quest to achieving optimal body performance with the man who can get me there. The biohacker himself. Mr Eric Bischof every episode. I will be sharing my actual results, both successes and failures as Eric teaches me how to apply the principles of ketogenics and functional movement to look and feel fantastic. Now, just as a side note, the first five, the first five episodes of this podcast are our foundational episodes where you get a solid foundation of the science and some of the principles that we talk about in this podcast.
Chad: 01:36 So if you're listening to this podcast and you have not listened to those first five episodes, I encourage you to hit stop. Now. Go back and listen to those so that you're on the same page with us and today I'm super excited because we have a different format than our usual format. You get a different voice on this podcast and we are so excited to have her here with us today. You get to meet Janette. Janette is one of Eric's clients through bio fit. She's been working on a kito genetics and functional movement with Eric and his team for quite some time now and I'm seeing some success and has some exciting things to talk about today and some experiences. Well, we'll talk a little bit about failure, we'll talk a little bit about success, but today you don't have to hear about my story today. You get to hear about Jeannette story. So thanks for being with us. Jeanette. How can you be here? So let's just start off, um, let's start off by talking a little bit about your history. I mean, looking at you now. So I've, I've heard some backstory here and Eric has told me, you know, kind of word around the gym is everybody wants arms like Jeanette.
Eric: 02:45 So there's even a few guys to say I want to look back and I don't feel that here you look and we're going to
Chad: 03:00 talk a little bit about that, but we also want to talk about how you feel, um, and, and that sort of stuff. But give us a little bit of history. What was, what was childhood and growing up like for you as far as diet and fitness goes?
Jeanette: 03:12 I grew up with a typical American diet. My mother always felt like, you know, the port four food groups where, um, meat, potatoes, the vegetables would always be corn or peas, maybe carrots and um, and desert always to start at the end. And so growing up, that's how I ate. I was, I've told this before, I was always the fat kid, you know, growing up and um, until I went to junior high and then when it was time for me to go to junior high, my mom decided that she never said I was fat. She just said, oh, well you're just a little bit a way and maybe you know, going into junior high and then to high school that maybe you could lose a little bit away. So she took me to a local doctor who put me on, um, what he called the exchange diet.
Jeanette: 04:11 So basically it was calorie restriction and, and that's what I did. And so for the summer before I entered junior high, which I was probably 13 years old and she did this dire and with the help of my mom and then I'd go to the doctor every week and weigh in and I lost 25 pounds, which was, you know, I was really happy about, but I was still on the heavier end, but back when I was growing up that was probably more the average size. And then when I hit college I just took a pe class and it was more like a bootcamp and I just couldn't believe how fun it was. And how if you worked hard and manipulated things and follow the instructions the way your body can change, I'd lost another probably 20 pounds while I was in college my freshman year in college. So instead of getting the freshmen, Tim, I lost 20.
Chad: 05:17 Wow, that's amazing too. Is that when the w, when you developed your foundation and love for, for exercise and dieting and that kind of stuff. I don't want to say dieting. Sorry, I don't like that term. What, what? I mean nutrition. That's a better word. Yeah.
Jeanette: 05:34 Yes, that's definitely when I, you know, gain that interest and love for. I actually had thought about going out nutrition in college, but when I saw the requirements I thought I don't want to take chemistry, so that's why I didn't major in nutrition, but because I was thinking, you know, I don't know if I'm that smart or if I'm just lazy,
Jeanette: 05:58 but that was one thing I tried to avoid it.
Chad: 06:01 I can understand that. So fast forward to now. I won't make you brag about yourself on here. So we'll, we'll turn it over to eric and you can kind of as, as coach Eric Kinda talk a little bit about genetics and maybe some of the routines that she's in, her nutrition and, and some of the results that she's, that she's achieving.
Eric: 06:21 Sure. She's fantastic. I'm, we've together. How long have you been working together for? A year. About a year next month. And uh, and she's, I'm telling you right now, [inaudible], she's 56 years old and you don't mind anytime your age, but it's awesome when I, when I'm with somebody, what she's accomplishing and how far she's calm and she's actually just really raised the bar on how you can look in the statically. Uh, she's um, she's basically ripped and it's hard to believe she's 56 years old, but it was exciting to work with her in culture and get her into the Kiel program. And um, when we started this, it was aesthetically shoe. What was your body fat percentage when you first passage here? Twenty. Almost 22 is 21 point eight percent on point and that's, that's a great quote for one. And I said, let's, let's stretch you up a little bit.
Eric: 07:28 This mission, what some of your goals were not mine. OK. She looked fantastic and then all of a sudden we got you on the, on the Keto and the next Dexa. So that I had to do, what were you at 14 point eight? I was like, are you even? Oh my gosh, I didn't want to go that low jeannette. So I kept working, we get coaching work and she was solid. Keto and the Dexa came back eight weeks later and you were, I know you're going to say 12 point six percent in was my reaction. You told me I needed to put on some more. Pat Never gonna hear me say someone put on fat, but I say I want you two percent, I want you to 14. And I raised your carbs and manipulated her nutrition and you did get back to 14, but I'll tell you, listeners, she gave me an email every time we discussed her percentage. Just yeah, she was really excited and a lot of ways, uh, women and men were like, oh my gosh. Or Sat, which is awesome, but I'm more comfort around the 14 percent. And then she was so cold all the time and I said, well, we have no fat on your body. I sent her out to guess what? They come back. Perfect. So it wasn't that the issue that you are on your page 14 right now and look fantastic and how you feel Jeanette. I mean through that time that how you've been feeling. I suppose.
Jeanette: 08:56 Everything else I feel great. I have more energy than I did before I started chemo and I, when I initially started there ketogenetic diet, I will do this for the eight or 12 weeks that would set up for that between Dexa scans and then I'll probably just kind of transitioned back to the way, you know, I did clean eating and everything, but I was thinking I'll transition back, but I felt so much better physically, mentally, emotionally that I thought, I don't know why I would ever go off kilter and I, I've maintained it for. It'll be a year in November.
Chad: 09:41 That's incredible. Can you talk about. I know for me like there's some things that I can identify day to day that changed for me when I went ketogenic in my. Yeah. And went on a ketogenic diet. Are there any of those that you particularly notice? Like, oh my gosh, this is different that are very specific for you and your situation. Like for me, um, I was always the post, the post lunch for me was a big deal. Like I had to fight through it on a daily basis. So that's one thing that I can pinpoint really specific that noticing the difference from that and then going Ketogenic that I don't get that anymore and I feel alert and energetic throughout the entire day. Are there any specific things that you can talk about that you experienced? Um, you mentioned, you know, tiredness, mental, a cognitive, you know, that kind of stuff. Anything that you noticed?
Jeanette: 10:37 Well, the first thing I noticed is I'm a runner and so I get up really early every morning and run and I used to be that I would, my alarm would go off and then I would lay there and talk myself into getting out of bed because I was tired and now I can, I'll wake up 45 minutes before I go around energy and, and it's an easy thing. That's the first thing I noticed. I didn't have that tired feeling, you know, initially, first thing in the morning, but also the post lunch, well I had that and that was always looking for, oh, I need some caffeine or something to kind of pick me up and make me more mentally clear and I don't witness that anymore either.
Chad: 11:27 Yeah. Eric, what is it about the Ketogenic Diet that allows the body to sustain that kind of energy throughout the day? I mean, it's pretty amazing. I don't know. I don't know many people that don't experience this afternoon lull. After you put some carbs in your belly and you,
Eric: 11:45 it's back to that dates back to the glucose again. When you're feeding yourself every few hours, glucose, raising your insulin up, spiking it. Then all of a sudden it's got to come down. It's got to get that glucose into the Mitochondria, into the brain, which is always being fed. Then you get that low, OK, and next thing you know, you don't have ketones, fatty acids converting to ketones to hit to the brain and to the, to the muscle and everything else to give you that energy. So you constantly have to re feed that Lucas afternoon, you run that cycle. How many times until 2:00, 3:00 in the afternoon, and guess why? I mean that's a lot of insulin spiking up and down and try and get that energy to the bank because remember, your brain is always looking for glucose and that's what the liver does to make sure that glucose in the blood to give it to the right, but now you have a different energy substrate, nonstop fatty acids to the liver, converts to Ketones, Beta hydroxybutyrate to the brain.
Eric: 12:45 You're going to feel great. I remember it produces more energy, more ATP in the brain than glucose molecule does, and that's what you experienced. That's why you don't have that. And that's a neat part about is people come back and say, man, I never had this kind of energy, and I remember you coming to and say, Eric, I need to keep going all day long, and even your runs and I see it. She's in my cycling class and trust me, I've tried to crush this gal. Really taking every bit of recreate as much as possible. And her liver, her cory cycle thought I haven't done as a machine state really is, and I don't give up on it because I'm going to make you guys will see, but I'm careful. I'm terrible, but you know, it should take. So and so that's it.
Chad: 13:34 In this podcast, we don't really, we don't try to hide the fact that there are some challenging things with a ketogenic diet. Um, and I just want to talk to you a little bit about that. What was that experience for you? What are some of the challenges that you had maybe at first, um, that. And maybe then we can move into how you've overcome those and been able to sustain it for almost a year now. So what are some of those challenges that you, that you came up against when you first started the Ketogenic Diet?
Jeanette: 14:01 I think the biggest thing was giving up carbs because I was definitely a carb person. I every morning I have no religious belief for breakfast, oatmeal and eggs every morning. And so I thought that was one of the hardest things I had. Sugar was not an issue because I've given that up, um, since I gave up sugar, 2000 zero sugar, zero sugar, it really helped me coach you,
Chad: 14:32 of course. Right? Because that's another kid that's another huge barrier that a lot of people have
Jeanette: 14:39 carbs and the sugars and those five. But once I got over that hurdle and it took me, I would say a good three weeks to get over. Oh, I can't have any, you know, that carbs from grains, you know, that was the biggest thing, but once I got past that, it's been easy. Yeah. Honestly, I'm probably not the best person to ask about hurdles
Jeanette: 15:04 because it really has everything, you know, everything is not easy for me, but I'm determined. I'm very determined.
Jeanette: 15:14 So I'm very disciplined.
Chad: 15:18 Yeah. So I can tell a lot of these things don't look like challenges to you or they do, but that's exciting for you, right. Is to have these challenges and, and overcome them. Whereas a lot of people will see that as a barrier. Um, and it'll get hard for them. Or did you do, do you ever get into food riots or, or are you someone who can eat the same thing over and over again? Or do you have to have a good variety and how have you kind of meal planned
Jeanette: 15:46 it? Pretty much the same thing over and over again. I might breakfast when I eat my breakfast. Um, I totally eat the same thing, eggs every morning with maybe some spinach in a mushrooms, but otherwise, um, so what I do is by the time I eat breakfast, I have usually been in the past for 12 to 14 hours and then I'll eat breakfast. And then I, that's another thing that's really noticed on the Keto diet is that I am not hungry. I literally can go all day long without eating and I, and I don't impact. There was times that dinnertime, I think, wow, in order to get my macros, I better eat something.
Chad: 16:33 Yeah. It's kind of like a chore, Right? It almost becomes a chore sometimes. It's like, ah, I'm deficient on this and so I have to go do that, but I could just go tonight and not eat.
Eric: 16:42 In fact, I looked at her diary every morning and say, hey, let's pick this up a little bit. Why did you forget to eat? I still need you to feel, but OK, let's do that.
Chad: 16:57 Yeah, that's very interesting. So let's move on. We've talked a lot about, um, ketogenic lifestyle. Let's move, uh, towards exercise regimen and functional movement. Um, what at since working with Eric and Eric, you can jump in here too, but what are some of the newest or newest, what are some of the newer, um, workout regimens that were introduced to you when you started working with Eric?
Jeanette: 17:24 Um, I, I switched up my running to running three days a week and then I do Eric Cycling Class, which I absolutely love. I've been on vacation this past week and I was not happy. Vacation was fun, but I was not happy because they had to miss.
Jeanette: 17:42 Yeah. Then he's had me do, um, lifting, trying, build some more muscle or more muscle.
Chad: 17:51 So there's this very specific. I think with you, we haven't talked about this prior, but I think there's a specific aesthetic look that you want, right? And so you're putting
Eric: 18:10 together she does zustrength, and zushred which is another, but she wanted to fine tune a few things and for to set some goals and she said, hey, I'd like to get a little more shredded so to speak around the deltoids, triceps, a little, the Bicep, little arms and they're fantastic already, but I said, hey, this is what you live and I will get you there. And so we're working on isolated him, do some isolation with her. We're not big fans of it, but she does all her body mechanics properly, everything. And sometimes if you want to isolate a little bit, fine too. I'm all for it
Chad: 18:46 and we have a few clients that you're coaching that are in that same vein. Can you, can we, can you talk just a minute, Eric, about those who are coming into the Ketogenic, uh, to your, to your coaching, diving into ketogenics and also diving into functional movement. How it's different because Jeanette was already close to where she wanted to be, right, and she was in great shape and so you and her have been working on fine tuning. Somebody who you're not working on fine tuning with and just the general getting into functional movement exercise. Can you talk about what that looks like?
Eric: 19:20 It's a lot come from a basic background and position training or they're doing cardio jam and do the pull down any device that they get lost. It's really what they're shown, what they do, unless they have a trainer, but the trainer uses basic going down to resistant path, but we say we incorporated into functional movement. You're going to have musician in there, but you're going to do with true body mechanics. OK. She's going to be working all different, various muscles in different ways because number, we preached that movement. We want that bd and factor, which I'm gonna to stay out of science today. This is not my father. This is gen eds, five catholic. She's heard me talk about how the brain drive neurotrophic factor. That creates more neurons to new genesis through movement. Different types of movement and that's what functional and we have probably 50, 60 different moves in there and you've done it and that does it and it and a lot of our clients come from a crossfit background, which I really enjoy that because now we can take the speed out of it, take the injury possibility because you don't mix with powerlifting, will speak with it, just too tempting to get out of the right body mechanics. You start making mistakes, you're form goes, and then Bam, next thing you know, that shoulder injury, you know, and I get injuries, but it was exciting to work with her because she's really, she's really the shape and cardio wise and she's kind of a cardio Morgan endurance and all that kind of the path I'm on with, with, with, with functional movement of course. But I'm kind of a cardio.
Chad: 20:57 It's really fun for me to talk to some of your clients, um, that come from a crossfit background and say I had no idea what I could accomplish with my body weight in functional movement. It blows their mind, right? The end. They were doing these things with ridiculous bars, weight now that can of stuff, and then they come in,
Eric: 21:18 coach with working where we actually can feel your core, your hip flexors, you actually get to know your body movements and mechanics out there, get it done under the time here. You're thrusters or whatever you're doing. It's, it's, it's my main way because you know, you're under the line, but we do time stuff here and we make a good balance of it.
Chad: 21:42 One thing that I love in the, in the little bit that we got to talk beforehand was you have a motto and I thought it was really cool. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Jeanette: 21:54 Or I saw this when I ran a marathon probably eight years ago approximately. And um, I've never forgotten that and I literally freak this to myself every single day and it says what I was given. I made better. What I made better ident improved what I improved. I tried to perfect my body. My body is a gift, therefore I honor it. And that's how I feel. I feel like that there's so much you can do with your body if you use proper nutrition and proper exercise. And that's one thing I love about Eric's coaching is the functional movement. He's so right. It's amazing how you can tune into your body and especially for he's working with me with isolation of certain muscles that I can, you know, as I'm doing that exercise, I actually can think about OK, isolate this muscle and doing the proper mechanics. I can actually feel that muscle working and knowing that I'm, you know, at least achieving or trying to achieve that I'm being successful in isolating that particular muscle. But I, but I feel like, you know, our bodies are a gift and you know, if you don't take care of it, then what do you have if you don't have good health and if you don't feel good.
Chad: 23:25 Yeah. I love that. We don't get to jump into the emotional side of stuff very often on this podcast, but that's incredible when we think about our bodies, right? And the mass amount of people, uh, the, the large percentage of people in this world. I think that are completely disconnected from their bodies in, in, in a way emotionally, right, or consciously our bodies just kind of do their thing. We put whatever into um, and, and we just hope it gets us through another day. And that's one thing that I've loved through this process too, is, and we've talked about this, Eric, his heart, it being connected to your heart, which is obviously a muscle that's not any, any new news to anybody, but um, I love that through the functional movement and monitoring the Eric has encouraged me to do that. I get so much more connected with my heart and watching its patterns as I exercise and, and you know, really understanding how it functions, where it maxes out, where it rests were, you know, all of these things and just getting that connection. And I love that you're talking about that, getting that connection with any muscle in your body that you want to, you can really find that and do that.
Eric: 24:35 In fact, Chad, since you're talking about that connection, Jeanette, six months ago after I'm gonna, give her a challenge and actually make her tray. Actually, Ron and I do not swam and asked her about the challenge that she had to overcome to get in that cold water, to learn how to slam. It was all, it was a new world for and the way she had to tackle that challenge to me was, was, was just awesome. And you know, asked her now she's, she really came along
Jeanette: 25:09 y yeah, swimming is definitely my weak link definitely. And I could swim when I was a child and I swam really well, great lung capacity because I could swim a whole weight to pool and never come up for breath. And so consequently I didn't learn how to do proper breathing. And so as I got older I quit swimming because I was, I got fat and so of course I was embarrassed to go to the pool and um, so I haven't swam for years and already put me up to the challenge of a triathlon. And that was my hardest thing was getting in a pool because I'm cold a lot and I don't care how warm or cool is. I'm still cold when I get in pool already can testify his literally see me shake.
Eric: 26:04 In fact, I'm. I've trained a lot of triathletes. I never felt sorry for someone in the water in my life as much as jeanette. I was like, oh my gosh, let me pick her up in this environment. Just in my wife was with us. We were like, oh my gosh, I've never seen that much pain and she shivered so that, but it was just, it was so exciting to be able to see step by just small steps, small steps, small steps, and we had like seven or eight movies that we were training and you're showing the k you guys would just get to the deep end and turned around because they want to go across the deep water,
Jeanette: 26:46 but a lot of it was mental. Yeah. A lot of it's mental and I not completely pass that, but I've come a long ways and my goal was to be able to swim well by next spring, so I'm going to work on that this winter by the indoor pool and and work on that.
Chad: 27:07 I have two final questions to ask you for wrap up, Eric, unless you have any other questions. Yeah, this has been awesome. So my first question, you're going to make eric blush a little bit. I just want you to talk a minute about, because we sit on this podcast, we stress so much of having a coach get a coach, whether it's Eric, whether it's somebody else, make sure that they know their stuff and get a coach that will keep you accountable because it's such a big deal in my opinion and from your results of success. So my first question to you is can you talk about what it's like to be coached by Eric and some of the things that you've been able to overcome because of of his coaching and his his holding you accountable.
Jeanette: 27:51 Eric is a fantastic coach. I really honestly couldn't say enough about what a great coach he has and the thing that I loved about working with Eric is that he is. He will put me to the challenge and he won't challenge me. Anything that I, I feel like that I can accomplish or he doesn't think I can accomplish, and so therefore it pushes me to work a lot harder and like the swimming thing, um, in particular, but I've learned so much from him, not just with nutrition, which has been amazing. I tell people all the time, I'll have people ask me, Oh, what have you done, you know, to lose weight or this or that. And I tell him keto and I would never have been introduced to that if it wasn't for Eric, but more than that is just how he's taught me to connect with my body and to use proper form. And the other thing is that he's so willing to do anything to help you more than willing to do anything to help you achieve your goals that you want.
Chad: 28:57 Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty incredible. So my second question is, uh, in closing, just some advice, what you've been incredibly successful, um, through reaching goals, achieving them, surpassing them, overcoming fears that we've talked about, overcoming challenges of, of temperature and introducing new things into your life. Like triathlons. Um, can you talk about, uh, or can you just leave us with a bit of advice? Anybody who's contemplating living this, this lifestyle, the ketogenic lifestyle, functional movement, introducing new exercise into their life, that kind of stuff. What's your advice?
Jeanette: 29:39 Go for it. That would be my biggest advice. It is hard at times and they're, you know, you will struggle, but it's definitely worth any challenge or anything that you need to overcome. I can't believe the difference in how I feel. Mostly the aesthetics is a great thing that came along with it, but definitely how I feel and it's worth every challenge I've ever had and it's, once you get past the little, you know, the hard part, it's easy in my opinion. It's an easy lifestyle to live. We just came back from vacation, like I said earlier and to eat out and that I didn't feel like I was challenged with that, you know, just a lot of good meat, vegetables, vegetables.
Jeanette: 30:34 Um, and that's, I feel like that's pretty simple way to go and um, but the results of what you get from living this lifestyle is definitely worth it. And I always look at it when I ran the Boston marathon the second time, I'm the poster that they gave us and nothing is impossible. Swept pain is temporary, but nothing is impossible and it's true. You can, you can accomplish anything you want if you set your mind to. So set your mind to it and do it.
Eric: 31:10 Ask the question one, Chad. I appreciate what you're saying, but I really appreciate your coaching. Your, your fantastic to coach. And when things get really impressive about genetics, I can push her into a pain cave that a lot of people can go into and that's a lot into racing. If you want to become efficient and successful and just better. Your pr times is one thing. I teach in my site and I push people into the pancake and Jeanette can really look deep into the pancake and I know I'm not allowed to talk about that biology, cellular biology in this podcast because I always get into what is the one where you say in the class that I constantly talk about why recycling and pushing ourselves. Mitochondria that I'm talking about that's still work in every thing that I appreciate. Trouble.
Chad: 32:09 This has been fantastic. Thank you so much, Jeanette. Your, your willingness to dive in and look at challenges as as, as just that as a challenge to be overcome is super inspiring, so thank you so much for taking the time to do this. I think this will help so many of our listeners just connect to real life situations where you are living the ketogenic lifestyle, you've pursued your, you've, you've gone through the functional movement exercises and just are living it and that's super inspiring, so thank you so much for being here and I also want to thank Eric for biohacking with us today and I want to thank all of you for joining us on this quest for optimal fitness. If you're ready to begin your journey and live your life in Ketosis, be sure to check out biofitcoaching.com or biofit coaching on facebook.
Chad: 33:00 There's a lot of conversation going on there. There's tools, there's help, all of that kind of stuff. Don't go at this alone. I'm like, I always say find a coach and if you so if it fits a, definitely check out fit coaching.com. Also, it helps us tremendously if you are enjoying this podcast, if you've gotten any value out of it, if you wouldn't mind considering jumping onto itunes and leaving us a five star rating and a review, a couple sentences about what you've gotten out of this podcast and what you like about it will go a really long way to help us reach more people and help more people. So until next time, stay keto.
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