E11 Part 1: How a Keto Diet can Help Reverse Type 2 Diabetes

This is part 1 of a special 2 part series on ketogenics and what it can specifically do for those who are pre-diabetic or suffering from type 2 diabetes. Eric shares his overarching mission of helping the tens of millions that suffer all over the world from these diseases. The best news of all? Keto really works on diabetes! So let's take a look at what this episode holds:

Eric shares what led him on the path of nutritional ketogenics and functional movement.

Obesity rates are skyrocketing! (As if we needed to tell you that)

The newly discovered truth behind many types of weight gain: It's not caloric, it's hormonal!

It's all about the insulin! Has it been awhile since 8th-grade biology? Don't worry, Eric breaks down what insulin is and what its job is.

Our insulin dependence has actually led to insulin resistance.

Why many large corporations have an interest in keeping diabetes on the rise.

Alzheimer's is the new type 3 diabetes!

And that's just a taste. After this episode, be sure to tune in next week when Eric talks about the solutions! (Hint: ketogenics can combat insulin resistance, pre-diabetes, AND Type 2 diabetes!) You don't have to suffer, there is a better way!


Chad: 00:00 They say a journey begins in a single step, or in my case, one less piece of bread.

Chad: 00:10 My name is Chad and I am your test subject. I have sought out an expert in the field of nutrition and fitness. I hope it helped me feel better. They call him the biohacker, but I call him parent. I hope you'll join me on a path of leads, you and I to optimal fitness as we live our lives in ketosis. This is the life in Ketosis podcast, biohackers guide to optimal body performance.

Chad: 00:44 Hello everyone. My name is Chad and this is episode 11 of my quest to achieving optimal body performance with the man that can get me there, the biohacker himself. Mr Eric Bischof every episode. I will be sharing my actual results, both successes and failures as Eric teaches me how to apply the principles of [inaudible] genetics and functional movement to look and feel fantastic. Now, just as a reminder, our first five episodes are foundational episodes, so if you haven't listened to the first five episodes of this podcast, go ahead and push, stop and go back and listen to those so that you have a firm foundation of all of the principles that we're talking about in this episode. And I'm stoked for this episode because in this episode, Eric, we really get to see the wide reach of ketogenics the wide reach of ketogenics blows my mind, right?

Chad: 01:36 So we've talked a lot about elite athletes. We've talked a lot about racers, we've talked a lot about people who are, um, you know, they're, they're active, they have a lot of movement, they're going to the gym, they're doing these things and they just want to push it to the next level. But today we get to dive into a whole different demographic that ketogenics is just as applicable to them as it is to our athletes, right? Or to those who are, are working on body composition. So anyway, I'm super stoked. I'm going to let you kind of introduce our topic because I think this is going to be fascinating, but first off, how are you?

Eric: 02:17 Good. Good. Good to be here again.

Chad: 02:20 Awesome. Um, so tell me, what are we talking about today?

Eric: 02:24 Yeah, I think, you know, we spend a lot of time talking about the aesthetics or you know, like you just mentioned, we get into the racing, into the elite athlete or just just like I just worked with a coach a lot right now that just want to do their first triathlon, their first big event in new marathon, whatever, which is fantastic. I have passion for that. I, I really do. And I love it. I love to see people reach out of their comfort zone and do something they never thought they could do. I've got two guys now. They way overweight way out of shape. Their goal next. Not this year is a half man. Next year I've gotten them already in training. They're going to be ready for full ironman. That's the goal I think is fantastic. That's awesome. These guys couldn't even swim. They did their first sprint, but their goals are there and, and I love it, but I also have a passion for the other side to get into the therapeutic end of it where we can really help people with their health issues.

Eric: 03:21 And that's what we're going to talk a little bit about today because it's, it's scary stuff out there right now. And I think we need to talk about both sides of, of the issues. OK. And that's what I. What does that, what does that passion rooted in for helping people who are in these, in these obese, pre-diabetic, diabetic states? That's a good question. You know, I always wonder where I got my passion from and you know, that's a good question. When I think back right now, I think even when I was young, I remember this is way before your time and back when I was a teenager, I remember my dad handed me a book and maybe some of the listeners if, well, if you're my age, you've probably heard of it. It was ah, Kenneth Cooper. It was a book on a robotics. One of the first of its kind on running and he said here, sign and read this and I think I was 16 years old and I read that and I remember, wow, this is, this is some of stuff.

Eric: 04:15 And then. Then I think after that, a few years later, I think I mentioned once before, I think 19 or 20, I got this book called Sugar Blues and it talked about the addictive behavior of sugar and what it can do to your mental state and everything. And it's a best seller if you look it up. It's been around for a long time and, and I think that was actually, I think I mentioned that was my first biohack. I was 19 or 20 and I went two years without any sugar. I mean I went almost two years solid and, and that's. Think about that before a nutrition labels were given out, you know, the, on the back of the page we had ingredients but so anything. You said sugar, I didn't need it. You talk to me about macros. I didn't really understand all these macros, but I knew sugar was was the enemy for them and I think and I think it just that passion grew from there and then in what change, and it's a good question you asked because it became I develop compassion and I had the passion for myself.

Eric: 05:13 It's kind of hard to explain where I want to be better. I wanted to be healthier for myself, but then all of a sudden it changed over the years. I can't tell when, but it became more of a compassion for, for others and I. It's just I think if you have passion and compassion and you really on the right track and I have compassion for those who I've worked with them that are obese, they're overweight, they have health issues, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and I love helping them and I love helping the elite athlete that it's kind of a great reward on, on both ends. I mean definitely there are definitely. We're not going to go into what I'm passionate about and that's

Chad: 05:58 talking about why our country top states in. It's not going to touch that a little bit, a little bit on obesity here. We're not going to get into corporations and anyway, don't get me on that, but, but it is just, I mean, it's one of those things we talked. So our country, we get, we get very well. Any country's human beings, human nature. We get very, um, want to get very involved and help other people, especially when it's dire and it's on a mass scale and its, and its death. I mean it's, it's. Yes, it's a horrible way of life. It's a terrible way of life, but ultimately it's death. And so I think that's where a lot. I, I love that passion that you have for it because we're, this can literally save people's lives. Exactly. Exactly. Um, so that's pretty incredible. So you took the path of keto, genomics and functional movement movement. Why?

Eric: 07:01 In thinking about it a years ago, something just got me down on this path of maybe you, I read a book, actually it was called syndrome x. You ever syndrome x? Probably not. OK. It's actually the same thing is metabolic syndrome that we talk about, it just the name replaced it and that was like early 2000 and it talked about the syndrome that people are having with high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high triglycerides, low a html, high ldl and belly fat and I thought, oh my gosh, and what is this leading to course cardiovascular disease and diabetes and all this other stuff. And then the other issue that I really got interested in it was inflammation and, and I have to give a lot of the credit to Dr Barry Sears. I think a lot of my listeners may have heard of him. He's kind of the zone diet and all of a sudden I started reading his books and I think, you know the Omega Rx, it was one of the books, anti inflammation is I'm toxic.

Eric: 08:08 Fat was one of his last books. I really started studying him and it was Omega official dummy turned on to that and the early two thousands. And so I knew from what I was reading how dangerous inflammation is. It's the silent killer mixed with metabolic syndrome or [inaudible] syndrome x, what it was called them and then so through experimentation and research and everything, and all of a sudden I just, this nutritional ketogenics just started to, to be that key because of the anti inflammatory issues are that Beta hydroxybutyrate molecule and how it can alleviate this metabolic syndrome. And so with that being aesthetically for people in Therapeutic, um, I believe keto is one of the best ways to get someone who has to deal with their inflammation and that metabolic syndrome and these other degenerative diseases. I just really feel a ketogenic is, is, is the key right now.

Chad: 09:06 Inflammation is something that we haven't talked a lot about. Um, I mean, you've mentioned here that the body will produce its own anti inflammatories as soon as when you're in ketosis. Right? Um, and so we haven't dove into that and I think we're going to at another time. Yes. I'm usually, this conversation starts from a aesthetic standpoint, right? This, this body composition. You've heard me say that word a lot. Yeah. This is, this is where a lot of people start. Exactly, exactly. And if they're starting there before it's obesity or pre-diabetic or diabetic type two diabetes. Awesome. Right. Awesome. But some people are coming to you in these stages, whether it's, it is extreme obesity, pre-diabetic, or even the people you're helping people with. Type two diabetes. Can you talk about. Yeah,

Eric: 10:00 in the body composition, and I use that word a lot is because that's call that. It could be the, the, the fast hack. We've got to change your body composition and we got obesity out there and right now is what 37 percent of adults are obese. Um, is it that low? That's fine. That's just. Yeah. Oh, because there's more there than the overweight but obese. We're talking and it's become an epidemic. They'll last 50 years and I won't go into the, you know, the fat and the low carb, high carb, low fat and all that. But it's epidemic. And we all know when we talk about obesity and overweight, we all heard the hypothesis, calories in, calories out, energy in energy out, eat less, move more. Um, and that's been proven very effective and I see it over and over with people I coach, they, they eat less than, you know, they, they, they, they're, they're hard on themselves because look, I'm not eating and I'm gaining weight and just dealing with that body composition, if you can just lower it, five to 10 percent better, insulin resistance starts to fade your blood pressure. And it really, from what I've been coaching and it's out there now, course through coaching and what I've learned over the years, it's turned out to be hormonal and this is what it's all about. Controlling that is the start. And Trust me, trust me, insulin has many purposes besides controlling, you know, your glucose and being a fat storage hormone, but I won't get sidetracked into all the really cool stuff that insulin does in the body. So I'll just keep its role to obesity

Chad: 12:08 for our conversation today. So whenever, I mean, I think my experience is probably similar to most, whenever we have a conversation about diabetes or prediabetes, insulin comes up. Yes. Um, can you, I mean, what does the body interact with insulin on a surface level? I'll keep diabetics or pre diabetics. What is actually happening inside the body when, when we're going into these stages changes.

Eric: 12:34 It's amazing when you get into the pancreas and you start dealing with data sales. Never listen to it. Go there. OK, I'll keep it right. We can, it. It's, it is produced by the Beta cells in the pancreas and insulin. OK? And it's a response in response to the foods that you're eating. All right? So, uh, basically insulin is telling what the cells to do with the food that you're eating. All right? So it basically has two choices. When you eat food, obviously it's going to, let's say, glucose, a Carb, you know, we talked before, straight to the portal vein, straight to the liver. Liver says, Hey, I got what I need here. I'm topped off of my glycogen. I'll send it through the heart down to the pancreas. Pancreas takes what it needs and it, it all of a sudden says, Hey, I've got to produce insulin.

Eric: 13:18 All right? And his job is to basically get that glucose, blood sugar, sugar out of the blood. OK? So it's got to get it into the cells. And then it does that through what we call glucose transporters. OK? They're on the, on the south. It will transport, doesn't bring it in, but it just provides the, the avenue for her to enter. OK? And then you got the Xl kinase and glucose, six phosphate and things like that to start signaling to. OK. But what's, what's neat about it is it, when you think of the sale, sometimes we forget that the cell actually can make its own decision. All right? I'll tell you the thing. Insulin, we have our hormones, our endocrines, you know, um, tissues that said, hey, let's send the hormone from the hypothalamus all the way down to communicate to what your body didn't you tissue needs are.

Eric: 14:04 So there's your hormones, but the hormone gets to the cell. The cell is kind of its own boss and says, Hey, I got to do what's best for the sale. You're doing what's best for the whole body. Keep an operating and everything else. But as far as that cell, the cell says, Hey, if I don't need that glucose or whatever you're trying to deliver to me, then I'll reject it because at my energy status is fine, I don't need anything. Then I will reject it. And so, and that's part of the problem is, you know, if you have insulin trying to do the job and then sometimes in obesity or you know, continuous eating and raising your glucose and eating lots of carbs and raising you sugar and spiking it sooner or that insulin can't do its job, it's trying to get it in there and it's left with a choice of, hey, it's not.

Eric: 14:59 I can't give it away to be burned and glycogen is all stored. Well, I'm going to have to store. It becomes a fat storage hormone. It sends it back and liberty has me go try it. Let's try it out and go start. And sooner or later you just keep producing this and producing and then you're in science, not effective anymore. OK? And it's not doing its job. And so the problem we have is we're just in a constant insulin secretion mode and sooner or later your muscle cells just not going to take it up. So that's, that's what, that's what we call insulin resistance or insulin resistance. Yeah. OK. So that's where the cells no longer really even have the skills. If you want to say that to take, take the insulin [inaudible] and now you obviously it's not getting rid of the sugar out of the blood.

Eric: 15:46 And then your pancreas says, Hey, I still got glucose here. I got sugar in the blood and we pump more out. And meanwhile I was not doing its job. And sooner or later what happens, the Beta cells that are in the pancreas, they don't start producing like they're supposed to. I mean you're in, someone's gets last and last and then your blood sugar rises and we now we have serious issues to deal with. And then this is where a lot of people are taking or needing to put into their body exoticness. So they're taking a foreign substance, synthetic synthetic, putting into their body and so that they can continue to write a go through the carb cycle like they have been. Yeah, exactly. And I tell you, insolence fantastic. That was created in 1920. I think about it. Nineteen 20. They created an insulin and these type one diabetics.

Eric: 16:38 OK. Which we're not really talking about. Type one is an autoimmune disorder that attacks the pancreas. The Beta cells get deficient or defunct and are killed off. They're not producing insulin. In 1927 was produced and then all of a sudden before then people were already talking about sugar content raising your insulin in 18, 77. Back then they were talking about sugars and issue it w with with diabetes. But then when you get insulin and look at it today, it's easier to say hey, eat whatever you want, just pump more insulin. So now we got away from all those years before and then after 1920 it just became insulin oriented and it was too easy for people to still, Hey, I can have my sugar and I have my carbs and eat whatever I want and just pump in one. So we've got to get, you know, bacteria, insulin resistance as a bad thing.

Eric: 17:31 And, and, and, and this is the beginning of metabolic syndrome and I can't tell you here, it's not, you know, we talked about obesity, but I have clients that are obese. Chad, there are two and eighty pounds was strange about it. There are biomarkers are as good as mine that we knew when I talked to them and I go over all their, their hypertension, their, their blood glucose, their blood lipids and everything. They are as healthy as I am. They are way overweight. OK? But remembered, just because you're obese doesn't mean you're going to have insulin resistance. They do. They don't have insulin resistance. Not all obese people have insulin resistance. All right? So can't say, Hey, is obesity causing or insulin resistance causing it? So there's a cost and effect here, and I tell them, I go, look, he. The only scary part about the, the so [inaudible] situation when you're way overweight is it's only a matter of time because that visceral fat, when you, what we call you get too much fat and you can't adapt any more fat.

Eric: 18:44 We're going to spill over. And when you go onto spiller it's like a dam breaking OK in a way. And what happens in spillover, that fatty acid leaves, it, goes straight to the portal vein, straight to the liver. Liver says, Hey, I got fat coming here. Do I repackage it, send it to another tissue, send it out there, or do I start my and my liver cell? And that's fatty liver disease and whatnot. We talked about when that fat droplet goes into that hepatic cell until liver, so it, it gets in there and it ends up building ability that pushes on the nucleus. It squeezes it over and there's no room for glycogen to be stored here. So that blood sugar that needs to come in and everyone says to store that glycogen, it stays in the blood. So that's when it becomes a dangerous situation.

Eric: 19:31 But you know, I, I tell people, hey, it's not all these people are insulin resistance and they're pre-diabetic or going into an insulin resistant state. Ah, yes. How do we know if you, you know, your, your, your average wait. So you've probably got about five to seven liters of blood. So we're going to test your blood glucose, your serum in blood. And so when we test that you are fasting glucose should be, would we test you before your eighties? And so basically if you're around eighty, eighty five, how much sugar do you think you have in your blood? You have five, seven liters of blood. How much sugar do you think that's equal to you? Probably don't

Chad: 20:16 have any. I know what measurement we're talking about here. Grams or teaspoons or whatever injury. You have three milkshakes and sugar in your blood right now.

Eric: 20:29 So you basically have about one teaspoon of sugar, a little teaspoon of sugar in your blood. And that's you're at a fast enough, so that means 90, eighty five, 92 [inaudible]. That's good. That's a fascinating meaning through the night, your facet, which we test your blood glucose to your blood sugar in the morning, so you're good. But if all of a sudden it starts to raise, OK, you're fasting. All right? And we have this a1c which we talked about that three month average of your glucose. So if that's an arrange of basically what, five point seven to six point three or four, uh, you're pre-diabetic, if you're fasting blood sugar, you wake up in the morning and I'll send you up to [inaudible] 25 average, and then we have an issue. You're going pre-diabetic or diabetic and means your entry, your insulin resistance, you'll be coming.

Chad: 21:15 Besides measuring biomarkers, because not a lot of people are running out every month and measuring their buyer market biomarkers. I wish. What are symptoms? What are they know?

Eric: 21:24 Yeah, yeah. You got to urinate a lot. You start peeing a lot because you, your body's trying to get rid of that sugar in the old days. You know, how they test it for you, p a, I guess you could have tasted this sugar if you want to be on the ground at the answer into it, guess what? Boom, you got a lot of sugar in your ear. It can get rid of it through your urine. It's gotten excreta. I mean, it's trying. OK? But it's, it's wreaking havoc on your kidneys and everything else. And that's, that's when it becomes dangerous. And so the goal is trying to get that insulin to work to where you can get rid of it, to get that glucose delivered where it's supposed to go.

Chad: 22:05 OK? And so that's um, so insulin resistance precedes prediabetics it's almost hand in hand. Yeah. OK. So that's the gateway. Yep. Um, so you become, you become insulin resistant and then you move into a pre-diabetic state.

Eric: 22:23 And that's what I call like my, I call it the eighty 1,000,000 bio fit crusade. It's, think about it. We've got 100,000,000 diabetics out there. OK? And within that I'm eighty, 1,000,000 are prediabetic and they're heading into grounds. It will take them into a type two diabetic and out of that, out of that hundred million, 23 are diagnosed and I think seven or 8,000,000 that are undiagnosed. And then the rest is the eighty 1,000,000. And is it reversible all? Yeah, it's totally reversed. It's controllable. And, and that's a sad thing is you've got to, you got to catch it now. I mean, you know, even though if you're obese and you have no insulin resistance, still change.

Eric: 23:15 The body composition dropped that because remember, I mean you want to head it off. I've watched them go from gaining weight, OK, then come in insulin resistance and then becoming pre diabetic and the doctor says, Hey, you better watch it. You know, we've got to stop this now. OK? But then all of a sudden they take these pills and you met forum and you're starting to be on meds, which is a scary thing getting on meds. Next thing you know, still eat the carbs, still eat. The bad food is going to spike and raise your insulin and sooner or later they're, they're type two. They're on and they're on meds and student later on insulin, they just get themselves more insulin so they go from pills to shots and it's like, Hey, stop, or what are you doing? Let's let's reverse this, and that's the goal.

Chad: 24:03 It's so. It's so tough for me and here's. Well, I'll dive in. I'll just scratch the surface because I think this is so important for people to understand is that those who, if you're listening to this podcast right now and you are in this situation, you have to understand that the world, not the world as people, but the world as corporations are fighting against you beating this and you have to understand that because in their advertising, in their marketing, in their products, all of that sort of stuff, it's all geared. I mean dialysis, the dialysis industry, the food industry, the Pharma industry are all in, have the same goal to keep you where you are treating your symptoms. That's not preventing, not reversing baby. They profit from an obese America and that's why you were taught to eat every two hours.

Eric: 25:03 You know, th, there's insulin every two hours and you get on that train  where you're going every two hours and you're spiking your insulin and saying, Hey, let's get this insulin under control and this is where science is going and saying, hey, control the incident controller spikes and, and I, and I just say as far as any program out there, key to Janice can reverse that if you have that situation and also can prevent it. Trust me, lean people can have insulin resistance, just like the people that are obese. You'd be surprised how many Latin people are insulin resistant. I mean if your car by carbohydrate intolerant, you're going to have insulin issues and we're just trying to keto, which you know, most of all. I'm just, if you catch it early, I want to get people like we're going to talk about this type two diabetes. When you go from that jump to a pre diabetic into type two diabetes, then it's the real deal. Oh

Chad: 25:58 yeah. And I bring that up. Not to get too political, but to notice or how people notice. Look, you can look at these, these corporations a different way. They are betting on you're losing, so let's prove them wrong. I. That's, that's, that's the goal. ketogenics is, is a path a really, really good proven path for us. Sorry, heart rate monitor is your heart rate going up as I'm preaching here. I'm actually a 58. That's not too bad. Not Too I about that. I'm just so passionate. I'm so happy that we can empower people to make a different decision, live a different way and fall into these traps that are set by people who are really smart and making a lot of money off of, off of their decisions because this shoot

Eric: 26:52 pathway that we're heading to type two diabetes right now and that's where the. That's where people are at and think about. They say it's going to affect 300 and eighty million people worldwide by 20, 25. One in 10 adults have diabetes. It doesn't have to though. My Age. I'm 61 to 65. I think it's one in four have diabetes. It doesn't. It's like you just said it's self brought on. As a consequence, I made sure of genetic will take that in consideration, but if it's out of a lifestyle and environment and the way you subject yourself to, then we've got to deal with it. But the, the scariest part about it is when you get into this into type two diabetes and I think it's such a precursor, it leads you in to these other diseases and, and one is cardiovascular, OK, that's the number leading cause of death for people who have diabetes is cardiovascular and people like rod and it, it's just feeds it.

Eric: 27:56 And then you have, of course, kidney failure, kidney failure to nerve disorders, uh, neuropathy, damage to the nerves, which gets really, really bad. Then you head into amputations and one of the biggies now is it's Alzheimer's and they actually, scientists are now calling Alzheimer's disease type three diabetes. There's even a group out there trying to actually change the title of Alzheimer's type three diabetes. The connection is that strong and that's why I, it just, it just scary and there's so much more evidence coming out that blood sugar affects your memory, your cognitive. I know certainly overtime because Alzheimer's is an age related disease and right now when you think about it in the stats on it, I think it's 10 percent or 65 year olds, 10 percent will get Alzheimer's, 25 percent of 75 year olds, 50 percent of eighty five year olds and in since 2000, I think it is, the deaths from Alzheimer's has risen to eighty nine percent.

Eric: 29:10 This is a big issue. Alzheimer is becoming real to people and if you had a family member affected by it or do you have dealt with it? It's awful. It really is. And so, and that's it. And what? Two 50, 300,000,000,000 a year in costs and added on to diabetes is 300,000,000,000 in this is all possibly it's all preventable. Yeah, for the most part. And that's. And that's, you know, I, I'm, I'm just reaching out to people out there and say, hey know change your body composition if you have issues with insulin resistance, it's an insulin and I feel bad for those that I've actually looked down upon and I'd coach and like, look, you're way over. Way quit eating, what are you doing? And I really, you know, my mind that kind of really judging them harshly, but now I've learned now it's not even their fault, maybe as a hormone issue that can be so insulin, you know, uh, as far as a carbohydrate and tolerant, they become insulin resistant and they're not eating, they're not pounding on, they learn how to slow off, they're not being lazy and it just, you really learn to have more compassion for people and said, hey, let's

Chad: 30:24 on this. Even beyond that, there are up against the giant who is brilliant and marketing are up against you. Whatever. Maybe yeah. However they categorized food as a young per, as maybe as comfort or you know, so we don't know anybody's backstory. So now we can't make that judgment, but today's a new day. New Choices are made every single day. Right? And so that's what I love this. I love this conversation. This is a big deal. This is a mission.

Eric: 30:55 It is. And that's why I said it's like that millions bio fit mission. That and one time I still want my, the elite athletes. I still want these, you know, everybody, it's, it's a broad range. It has from all the way aesthetics to therapeutic and it's, it's, it's really, it's, it's really an exciting time for this.

Chad: 31:19 So you've sufficiently put a pit in my stomach and, and now what? Now? Now, now, how do we feel better about this?

Eric: 31:27 Guess what I was talking about that next week. Do you want me to go? How long we got to talk to you about it? You need to bring what nutritional ketogenics is going to do for you. OK? If you're in this situation out there and like I said, you look around you and how many people are in this situation, they're overweight or out of shape or they've got some health issues going. You know, they may have insulin resistance, they may be pre diabetic and I people don't even know they're pre diabetic and that's one thing I do in my testing in bio fit. I want you to test your blood glucose as much as you to test your Beta. I want to know your blood sugars in the morning and I'm catching people now I coach like, Hey, whoa, you're a hundred and 12 and you fast it, right? You have nothing to eat this morning or you know, just your water and you've got to stay on top of a complete eight. So I'm excited to, to bring the message of what, what chemo can do, uh, for you, uh, if you're in this situation,

Chad: 32:31 that's our setup, right? That's set up. That's the set up for next week. I guess we're going to dive into how effects these stages of obesity, pre diabetic type two diabetes, the Beta hydroxy butyrate molecules and Mitochondria have some success stories for us. I mean, that'll make us feel happy. Yeah, I will. I will. And, and, and I'm excited about it. So I'm excited to hear those success stories. Well, I want to thank Eric for biohacking with us today and I want to thank you for joining us on this quest to optimal fitness. If you're ready to begin your own journey and live your life in Ketosis, be sure to check out biofitcoaching.com or Biofit coaching on facebook. Eric's on there. There's discussions happening, there's tips, there's a, you know, a community where you can find help. Um, if you're, if you're taking on this life of Ketosis, I check those resources out.

Chad: 33:31 Um, there's plenty there for you. And also if, if these discussions and these podcasts are helping you in any way, please consider going on itunes or wherever you get your podcasts and rating this podcast and giving us a review. It really helps us reach a lot more people. You now know what, what Eric's giant mission is. And uh, in order for us to do that, we're going to read many to reach a whole lot more people. I'm also one last thing. Last week we published a q and a episode and the response to that q and a episode has been phenomenal. It's our highest listened to podcasts, our highest numbers on release date that we've ever had. And so I want to do more of these q and a episode. So if you're a listener, you have questions going on, even if they're specific to you. Um, we can keep you anonymous. We don't need to mention names, you just let us know. Please reach out to us and we will answer your questions on the next q and a episode. I think we should do on every 10 episodes or so. Um, I'll do my best. So if you have questions you want answered on the podcast, you can email us@bioteamatbiofitcoaching.com and please make sure that you make a note if you want it to be anonymous or not. So anyway, this has been fantastic, Eric. Thank you so much. And until next time, stay keto!