E20 Keto and the Mind: Enhanced Mental Ability Through Ketosis

Do you know what is perhaps the most underrated benefit of a ketogenic lifestyle? Sure, everyone knows it's a great way to lose weight and get healthy. But, in Chad's mind, the mental benefits are the real unsung hero. Today the guys discuss this life-changing effect of ketosis: enhanced cognitive ability (or just good ol' mental clarity). That's right, your brain loves those ketones! So look sharp and tune in to learn what ketosis can do for your mind.

Brain energy is one of the first things most people notice on ketosis.

Why does the brain love ketones?

Eric breaks down what is really going on at the molecular level.

Mito, Beta, and ATP (oh my!)

How beta can curve the brain cravings.

The correlation between higher beta levels and enhanced mental acuity.

How depression is actually an inflammation issue.

What can keto do for your mood?

Ketogenics and the benefits to those suffering from mental illnesses.

The importance of journaling your journey.

When the guys talk about keto improving your overall lifestyle, they mean just that! Not only does keto help your body, but it also has a tremendous effect on your mind. More energy, clearer mind, better mood and just plain happier life. The best part? You can experience all of this for yourself!

If you have any questions on this episode (or any questions in general) don't hesitate to reach out to us at bioteam@biofitcoaching.com.

If you're interested in starting your own journey, you can find out more information at www.biofitcoaching.com or on Facebook at www.facebook.com/becomebiofit.

Transcript:

Eric: 00:00 As I age, my mitochondria drops, so I'm all about Mitochondria biogenesis, trying to create new Mitochondria in taking care of my functioning, Mitochondria too fast, [inaudible] and other ways to keep what I have. I, I would trade you and my testosterone is gone, so you got a big advantage here in many ways. Many ways. Yeah. They say a journey begins in a single step or in my case, one less piece of bread.

Chad: 00:37 My name is Chad and I am your test subjects. I have sought out an expert in the field of nutrition and fitness who I hoped would help me feel better. They call him the biohacker, but I call him Paris. I hope you'll join me on a path that leads you and I to optimal fitness as we live our lives in ketosis. This is the life in Ketosis podcast, a biohackers guide to optimal body performance.

Chad: 01:10 Hello everyone. My name is Chad and this is episode 20. Can you believe that [inaudible] of my quest to achieving optimal body performance with the man that can get me there, the biohacker himself. Mr Eric off every episode, I will be sharing my actual results, both successes and failures as Eric teaches me how to apply the principles of keto genetics and functional movement to look and feel great. Just as a reminder, the first five episodes of this podcast are foundational episodes. If you haven't listened to those, we encourage you to hit pause now, go back, listen to the first five episodes and then join us back here today. I am stoked and I think I say that every episode, but I really am, and I mean it is. The reason that I'm still today is because we're going to talk about the best benefit that I have experienced from working with you, Eric, and I have to preface this, I have a pet peeve and here's my pet peeve.

Chad: 02:05 Here's what I have, here's what I have to put out there. So obviously I'm really active on our instagram account, the biofit instagram account. Um, if you're, if you're not following that, you can, Eric does some video tips on there, that kind of stuff. It's, it's Biofilm coaching, coaching on instagram. Um, and you can go out there and get tips, that kind of stuff. Anyway, I follow that really closely because I like to see what people are talking about in Ketosis, keto, all that kind of stuff. And we have a pretty good. We're building a pretty good community of keto people on there, so we get a good taste of what people are doing and talking about even outside of the fit program, here's what bothers me is there's so much conversation about weight loss and about food and you know, all of these things that to me, our periphery things to this one topic that we're going to talk about today, which is mental clarity. The number one benefit that I have gotten from being in Ketosis is the mental clarity. It's the thing I've noticed the most is the thing I enjoy the most is it is the thing that keeps me there. Really. I'll be honest. I do love. I mean my body feels great. I love working out good. I love seeing progress in my workouts, but the minute mental clarity is the one thing that keeps me in Ketosis.

Eric: 03:29 That's good. I'm glad you. How's worry about it? Pet peeve. I thought you were going to get on my case about not being more involved in instagram and facebook and. No, I'm pretty literate when it comes to social network. I thought, oh crap. He's going to call me out right here. I'm trying. I'm sure you're doing fantastic. Coach and do a lot and I'm like, I should just. I'm, I'm an old guy and I haven't. I haven't launched into this instagram and all this stuff. Yeah. The way I can just pull it up,

Chad: 04:05 bring it up is because I think it's a good sampling of what people are talking about, how they're living it and I just don't see the mental clarity, the mental benefits, the therapeutic benefits. Talked about enough. So that's why I'm excited about this episode. So talk to me. What, what, why are we talking about mental clarity today? As

Eric: 04:26 in we're backed. I, I hate to always go back to the Mitochondria, but that's when I don't hate. I actually love it, but that's where we have to go with this because mental clarity, mental cognitive, your energy, your focus. We're dealing today more in the brain because that's where we're going to focus on our cognitive. So everything is a derivative of one thing, mitochondrial function. OK, just think of Alzheimer's. What's the biggest problem was Alzheimer's. It's impaired cognitive function. All right? With with age, OK, that's an aging disease, but it's mitochondrial dysfunction because the glucose uptake is, is impaired show the energy is not being produced. You have the ATP energy production in the neurons. OK? You have the astrocytes pushing in lactic to help. OK, so obviously we're damn. Most of us are dealing with glucose based energy in the brain. OK? And so basically we're back to the Mitochondria.

Eric: 05:30 We, it's one of the. I'm excited when you, when you first said, oh my gosh, Eric, I have never been so cognitive zoned in in the afternoon feeling that not that big spike from your previous glucose days and getting that big crash where you're tired and sleepy, you're actually really zoned in and cognitive and, and those that are in the biofit program. That's one of the most things. I wait for your body composition and the therapeutic if you're diabetic and all that. I'm all about that, but I'm also excited. The first thing usually is that, like you said, it's that brain energy.

Chad: 06:10 Can you remember? I mean I just. From what you're seeing right here, I'm sure you remember. Do you remember the number one thing I said I was dissatisfied with in the beginning when almost over six months ago when you and I first met and we were talking about my lifestyle, my fitness and the things that I was most frustrated with. The number one thing. Do you remember what that was?

Chad: 06:28 The afternoon afternoon crash, that afternoon crash and you're a. you're into being very creative and you're producing and it's all day long, maybe into the evening and a lot of my clients in larvae out there are just trying to maintain a high production level throughout the day and Beta hydroxy butyrate, molecule his is where it's at.

Chad: 06:52 Yeah. No, I mean once I wake up, I wake up at 5:00 AM, a do a little bit of work before the kids get up and then once they're up where we're getting them ready for school, doing all of our routine things, getting them off to school and then dive back into work and you know, somewhere in there having some, some carb fuel. I'm talking before I was in, in, in Ketosis, you know, getting some carb fuel in the morning, getting all them off to, to, to school and do the routines. And then by the time I know or you know, before I know what it was, lunchtime and I would carb load again and then an hour after that carb load, just a deep,

Eric: 07:29 deep dive. You know? And that's, that's that vicious cycle that we've talked about in a lot of people. Don't just let it sink in that when your glucose dependent on your brain, OK for that fuel, your, you're going to get away from it. You're going to go to a glucose withdraw. But remember, that's why you wake up starving in the morning because your glucose dependent, your brain is saying, hey, you got cortisol kicking off in the morning to, you know, start your day and raise your, your glucose some. But if your glucose dependent, your star, you know, morning where you've got to feed yourself carbs, because your brain, remember 20, 25 percent of your energy needs glucose to the brain. So as we said, it's a glucose pig. I mean, it's a hog and so it's got your fatty acids won't cross that blood-brain barrier. So we're dealing with a different playing field in, in Ketogenic, a nutrition, it's a whole different playing field. And that's what's exciting about it. OK?

Chad: 08:28 So talk to me what's going on? I mean, we can keep it pretty surface level so that we don't lose me and a bunch of other people. But why does the brain love ketones? What is it? I mean, why does that combination so powerful to where now in, in, in, in contrast from I, I explained what it was like when I was carb loading or not carbo-loading, but you know, glucose fed. Um, now the, the difference now is I eat lunch and, or breakfast, it's whatever it is, brunch a 11, 30, and my energy is boosted again, right? You know, it goes through the roof and I'm not getting that, that sleepiness, that tire. What's this combination? What's happening?

Eric: 09:16 Alright, with keto, you know, we talk about the ketones, Beta hydroxybutyrate being an energy substrate. So out there were saying, hey, they call it your secondary or your backup fuel or your alternate fuel. Well, I don't call it that. I call it my primary fuel. Glucose is important. Don't get me wrong, OK? Your body is going to produce a baseline of glucose because you'll need it for neuro-transmitters red blood cells. You need it for what they call intermediate and or a pyrosis. OK? That's when you go in the Krebs Cycle, there's intermediate, you're going to produce some other, you're going to synthesize some other substances like glutamate to Gaba, and we'll go into that, but those are important for cellular function, OK? For tissues. So the brain does always want a little bit of glucose. But what we're doing, I don't call it the backup fuel, I call it my primary fuel, right?

Eric: 10:10 So as our fatty acids, when we bring down the insulin, as we, you know, this is kind of a repeat, but always good. We might just be tuning in, but remember that whole goal is to bring your insulin down. All right? Cause your fatty acids from your adipose tissue to be released. It's going to go straight to the liver. All it's going to back up a little bit there because you're getting a lot of it. So the CDOT, there's going to convert to Acetylcholine, a little groups. All right here where we begin, as we've talked about before, the ketone production, OK? And the brain can't burn fatty acids because it can't cross the blood-brain barrier, but just keep in mind that Beta hydroxy butyrate, once it's produced in the liver, goes to the blood straight to your tissues and to your brain. Your brain loves ketones.

Eric: 10:57 It can't burn fatty acids, but it loves ketones and the Beta hydroxy butyrate. When it hits that Mitochondria were back there. All right? This is where everything gives you your energy. All right? As we talked before, when Mitochondria takes in that Beta Beta hydroxybutyrate actually converse to Alaska Tate and move and go into in into the Mitochondria, OK? But once it goes in, all right, it actually will. The electrons from that source will have electric transport chain. All right? This is where all the ATP production is. We have complex one, two, three, four. All right. This is where all the action is right there, and that's all we're doing. We're trying to get those electrons from Beta to your electrotransport eight to produce ATP. Your energy, and when it does that or you get more energy from a molecule of Beta, that oxygen, then a molecule glucose, you more ATP, but remember a complex one and three W I won't go detail that where you get electron leakage.

Eric: 12:02 Remember what that means? Electron leakage, free radicals. All right? Those are the two complexes. All right, so with Beta, it reduces your free radical damage, which is reactive oxygen species, which is the cause of lack of mitochondria function, lack of energy, lack of cognitive, lack of focus. In a nutshell, quick. All right. Don't get me in the complex. I like the electron transport chain. I really, really do. I get everybody to just fall in love with that and you know, everything you're doing in your brain from this molecule being converted to tape is where it all begins. I mean in keeps, you know, I'm, I'm, I met age, right? So I call my age where I'm at. I call it the [inaudible] drop. All right. I hit the teacher testosterone and Mitochondria drop, you know, I probably produce as far as mitochondria with my aging. And you're like half his youngest. I'm not hearing a little bit less than half, but I probably have. I can have half the Mitochondria. There you have. It actually dropped as I age. My Mitochondria drops. So I'm all about Mitochondria biogenesis trying to create new Mitochondria in taking care of my functioning mitochondria through fasting, through a top of Ge and other ways to keep what I have. I, I would try. <Unk> just asked, her. Phone's gone. So you're a big advantage here in many ways. Many ways. Yeah.

Chad: 13:38 So I have a question for you, might be out of left field and if this is just crazy, then we can take it out or we don't need to even address it. But we've talked a lot on this podcast about um, ending cravings, which we know cravings are obviously the brain. It's not the body, it's not the functions of the body craving sugar or carbs. It's the brain, the brain, right? And so simultaneously, uh, you know, with this, me noticing more energy and more clarity, I also noticed that re reduction or almost a extinction of cravings towards sugar and carb. So are these conditions.

Eric: 14:18 Yeah, great point. You brought up OK, fantastic point. It's so connected. OK. And the biggest reason why I say we come from a different playing field with to gen x is because what other nutrition program, there's other nutrition programs out there, you know, I'm not saying one size fits all, like I've talked about before, OK, it works with body composition and other things, but what other playing field will deliver you? Something that's the biggest culprit in losing body composition and changing your. If you're pre-diabetic, metabolic syndrome, nothing will actually curb those cravings better than Beta hydroxy molecule. The ketones, it actually, that's the most exciting part is when I hear you and others that I'm coaching and others out there that are on the Internet saying, it's amazing. I don't, I don't have these cravings. Well that's why you fail and the other programs, unless you really got people hounding you and you, you know, you got accolades coming at you every day and people support, which is great, but it's a grind.

Eric: 15:21 It's a grind. Perfect word for it. It's a grind because it a good example. My wife Lisa, she's not here, but anyway, she scaled out for Christmas. All right. That scale, she's been keto for a year. She scaled up from Christmas and then it went to the next day, to the next day and I said, well, when you getting back in, and she's like, don't bother me. Don't tell her lecturing me about this. I'm in a bad mood district. Whatever. Her too. All her kids were in la that she didn't see him at Christmas. So anyway, real quick example, she ended up going out a whole week. OK? And she actually didn't do. She ain't no peanut m an ams and quite a few things. And then she goes, I cannot believe the cravings I have. Why did they come back so harshly? And that morning she never has hunger in the morning.

Eric: 16:17 Well guess what? That brains back on. Oh, it's intense was I am starving like the old days. I'm literally starving. And I say, well guess what? You just reignited those brain cravings and then medically wise or just whatever attachment was there and chemically, OK hormonal cause your insulin's jacked up again. She spiking it. She was shocked. It was one week how it all came back and you gotta be careful.

Chad: 16:43 Good news is though I was talking to her this morning before we hit record and she's, she talks, she's, she went right back in and she's feeling really good. She's at the gym right now. Good. She feels like she's losing the way that she put on.

Eric: 16:57 Awesome. But you know, it's changing. And we talked about before, you know, when you scale out your, you're popping that glucose in pretty hard, that glycogen is like whoa.

Chad: 17:06 And you're stacking the glycogen. Remember when you stack like junior stock water and it's a lot of it's water weight. So when she's back off now she's going to drop all that water was scareder it really. Let me bring it back to our topic is. Well, I mean I guess, but she just, she just looked happier this morning, but we'll. Yeah, yeah, I agree. She, it just looked a little bit lighter. She just, you know, and I wasn't surprised at all to learn that she had had gotten back into ketosis. Yes. And she's back. In fact, I, I scaled up but I'm back in. I mean I was happy to see [inaudible] yesterday and I haven't been one millimolar for awhile. Always. Some we should talk about too is you know, where the range is. And for brain cognitive, I, you know, there is a correlation between how much ketones you have bay because I remember you and you're a Pi, your brain was on fire.

Eric: 18:08 OK. So there is a correlation to how much Beta you have, how much will function in the brain. Mitochondria. So there is, I've, I've had a couple out there that were in the fours and he couldn't even go to sleep at night and his brain was just, would not turn off just yeah, it was. And I had to explain to them that until you get your dietary fatty acids, OK, working with the indigenous fatty acids come from the adipose tissue being converted to Ketones, tell that reaches an equilibrium. Homeostasis, you're going to have higher ketones. And he's there. Here's the point where I could I bring them down. Cause remember sleep is uno. It's number one. Got To have sleep. But it does correlate, you know, they talk about at one millimole could be a 10 percent increase in energy level to the brain, which is huge when you think about it.

Eric: 18:59 So to 20 percent they can, you know, you know, like five millimole could be 50 percent. They're still figuring out the studies on that. So some days when you have a higher, a Beta level, uh, you might notice a little more brain cognitive activity because when I was fasting, there you go. What happened in my fast, the fourth, fifth day I was shooting two point seven milimole and my brain was just, it was on fire. I was cognitive. My dopamine levels in neurotransmission was active member. We're getting more 80 ATP, we're getting more activity. Plus you have a toxic g taking place and it all, it all correlates. It really does. But don't be out there if you, if you're low, don't take it. Like, ah, I'm not getting any brain cognitive or activity. You know, everybody's different. I mean, I could do your ratios of how much, how much a Beta hydroxybutyrate versus aceto acetate. You have it.

Eric: 19:53 Everybody has different ratios in. We're all different. We're different.

Chad: 19:57 Hi Friends, this is Chad. Sorry for the interruption. We just wanted to take a quick moment because we've had a lot of people reach out to us letting us know that they listened to the podcast, love the podcast, and would like to talk to us more. About the bio fit program, the bio fit lifestyle, but don't know where to find us a. It is at the end of every single episode, but we wanted to put it here in the middle just in case you miss it. Push stop before the episodes over. We totally understand. We do the same thing, but if you'd like to get in touch with us, you can visit us at biofitcoaching.com or biofit coaching on facebook. We're also on Instagram @biofitcoaching, so we hope to see you there. And back to the show.

Chad: 20:38 So can we talk about mood for a minute here? So, um, I know for me, I've, I've never struggled with, um, I mean just normal ups and downs, right? I haven't been, I haven't ever been a depressed person or um, that kind of stuff. But one thing I really, really noticed a quite quickly was my mood and how much I felt like I was in a good mood more often. And that was, I was at my stress, um, my ability to deal with stress in my ability to, uh, like I just, I just notice things like anxiety. My, my ability to just get on the ground and play with the kids actually is, is a, I'm better at that when I'm in Ketosis, I've noticed because my mood is lightened and I'm not as stressed. I'm not as head down. I can manage more cognitive, you know, I can, I can manage cognitively playing with my kids, but also having work things going on. So it's very interesting. But can we talk about mood? I mean, we hadn't mckay here a couple of weeks ago where he talked about clinical depression and suicide thoughts and turning those around with pieces. So what's, what's the connection there?

Eric: 21:52 Energy levels in the neurons are synaptic. OK? Presynaptic Post Synaptic, we've got that. Neurons have to have ATP. OK? Biggest issue is if you're not [inaudible] not functioning properly in the neurons, what are you going to have? Poor transmission. You're going to have poor blood flow. You're going to have all these issues due to a dysfunctional mitochondria. So the goal is what's so exciting about Beta and set the last state in the brain, it actually is giving you that boost of energy, clean energy, less free radicals, less inflammation. We talked about the inflamma zones that Beta hydroxybutyrate prevents and stops the cytokines and inflammatory issues. Depression is an inflammation issue. I have clinical studies and I could have brought and talked about about how depression is a route from inflammation, like all diseases are everything we can think of comes back to a dysfunctional Mitochondria and through that's inflammation and other issues and cellular damage from free. Radical damage. And that's it. Just remember when I fast those, those five days when my wife say to me and I took it

Eric: 23:05 thought you were going to be grumpy. Yeah. And then what she say afterwards, she preferred me fast, cheap, fast. Which we don't know if she liked to eric as a fasting eric or if she just wanted you to die. I could've been like kind of this old man. Finally. What's. What's your life insurance policy and does it cover suicide by fasting? They

Eric: 23:29 talked to you when they are in keto and they're in Ketosis. Their moods change like, like Mackay and every one of them. My wife, me, you and my mama buy a fish. When they scale out, the first thing I hear from them is my mood change. I am anxiety. I felt depressed and so you know, we're back to the, to the nutrition,

Chad: 23:54 you know, it's very heartening and inspiring to me to read story after story or hear a story from your client's story after story. I got off my anti-depressants. Oh, it's awesome. I got off my adhd medication. I got, you know, all of these. It's, it's unbelievable and I hate talking about stuff like this because I don't want anything to sound like a magical cure or that, that people are struggling with those things and don't continue it, but it is, it's happening. It's really. You can't deny the evidence of people person after person saying that they've been able to get off these medications.

Eric: 24:29 Exciting with antidepressants, if you study it, there's a book I called the new drug I read a few years ago and they really can't really beat placebo effect antidepressants, you know, their little way ahead, a placebo, but through all their double-blind placebo, clinical randomized controlled trials, it's their goal to say, Hey, we've got a crush placebo, but they really can't crush the placebo effect, so you have this drum that has all these side effects, you know, but with Ketosis, I can't, I've never heard anybody say upload just a placebo effect because day after day and they, they're, they're able to relate it to that crash they had in the afternoon or in the evening. And they're like, wow, I am still working. And I didn't even know it. OK. I didn't have to tell myself, I'll just keep working through it, work through it. It I didn't eat til 4:00. I didn't even realize it. Well that's not placebo. Actual brain function and I was happy while I did see if in a good mood who's in a good mood, not eating. I mean, when I was fasting and know I was a happy guy and I actually felt that he, trust me, it wasn't a placebo, it was not placebo

Chad: 25:43 after, I mean, we're not even done talking about this yet, but you can see after talking this much about it, how you can see why it bugs me that this isn't one of the hottest topics surrounding keto. Right? You mean like, why isn't everybody talking about this benefit? It's incredible.

Eric: 26:00 So you're right, you're spot on and, and we should do more of it because I'm about the Mitochondria function and dysfunction and you know, for your aging and for your, all your neurological diseases in any chronic disease. It's all there. But man, the cognitive is right there

Chad: 26:19 that it's not as catchy or sexy as, hey, I lost x amount of pounds on Kido. I get that. But come on man, like we're talking about our relationships. We're talking about our work. We're talking about our workouts were talking about our happiness, our mental clarity, our learning, our, you know, all of those things.

Eric: 26:37 And you know, what's neat about it is those areas in keto. OK, that get out of keto. OK. They just want to scale out or they're in a different phase in their life, which is fine, but what do they do? They will jump over to the exogenous ketones to maintain Beta hydroxy molecule to maintain them. Because think about brain cognitive. You know, we have silicone valley, right? Which is keto is huge there. OK, so we can do the Beta hydroxy butyrate molecule. What's the other avenue we can do to enhance brain cognitive and energy and focus your speed. OK, there you go. No, I jumped in and I probably never talked about this about two years ago. I jumped into new tropics. OK. Those are praying cognitive enhancers. OK. And I, and listeners, I tested with all of it. Address, Finola, new pap, a prostitute, a oxy process, [inaudible], no porosity, Tam and process.

Eric: 27:39 I went through the whole gamut and I thought, you know what? I'm going to test this out and see if it really does increase the focus because silicon valley, they're, I mean they're working 24, 48 hours straight there. They're using Beta, they're using nootropics and that's a big thing. Brain enhancement is huge out there and I'm not saying anything against it, but I actually self experimented with it and I tried all the different ones and I, I worked out with um, I trained with them, I studied with them and try different things with them and, and that's another way to do it. And um, I, I'm, I'm not taking them anymore. I, I thoroughly with the Beta hydroxybutyrate molecule and maybe we'll talk about another time. Sorry to get off on that, but I haven't been down that other avenue to increase your brain cognitive in your focus and, and, and I, I had some good self experimentation with them anyway, but there are those out there make maybe some of you are doing an nootropics, maybe not it.

Eric: 28:36 I liked the endogenous production of my brain enhancements start. I agree. If I can create it naturally, that's all. I'm all on board for that. So even even with. Yeah, we won't go there. I'm fetterman's. I'm trying to, but you know, I do see a Doosey adderall on and on some stuff coming out, you know, people that are, you know, attention deficit issues, adderall and what they feel. And I've had people actually say they don't need a, they're getting fed amine, adderall or vyvanse because of the molecule Beta and what it's doing to them to get them a little more, you know, focus. And we're not in any way I in any way. I'm not recommending mutagenic for children, but it's interesting, and this is another tangent, but right. It's interesting that we, we look at our children and we wonder why there's this increase in attention deficit disorders and that kinda stuff. And we're feeding them. Yes. You know what, I'm just not a strong enough word, but general mills just

Eric: 29:42 came out with some new sugar cereals. Hey, you're not there. They got some new sugar cereals and when are they ever going to learn? This train will never stop. And they're combating,

Chad: 29:52 you know, the only way that it will stop as if we vote with our dollars. That's the only way that it will stop if we're willing to start paying for things that are healthy for us anyway. And it's getting more and more really chastised for our tangent. So let's, let's move on. Let's go back. So we're talking about, um, we talked about this mental clarity that comes to how quickly can somebody expect to start experiencing this is for those who are considering ketosis and maybe this is the thing that pushes them over knowing that they can experience this, this mental clarity. How long is it gonna take for them to start experiencing some of the first experience?

Eric: 30:27 You're going to get his worst. You'll get brain fog, you, your glucose, the brain saying the Detox Kit me glucose. I'm going to force your liver to produce some of that glycogen and glucose, but your insulins

Eric: 30:43 down. OK? So basically until us fatty acids, they're being released until you're not fat adapted, yet you're, you're not fat adapted. So you're going to shove all that fatty acids to the liver. You're going to produce a cdot acetate at first and everybody's a little different on how soon they start feeling it. I never got the Keto flu. You did a day, but you did get it. It was intense. Yeah, I know. And I just had another new bio fitter and she said, I've been sick for two days and I sodium sodium sodium, and she goes, oh, I forgot you forgot. I looked on fitness pal and it was less than a one gram of sodium. I'm like, ah. So I pushed her. She feels a lot better on the brain. Cognitive itch. Usually within a week I see people starting to utilize some of that seat of acetate starts to convert to Beta hydroxy butyrate, and that's what really gets to the brain and the Mitochondria so you become better at it and more efficient using Beta. So once you get to that millimole [inaudible] and above, OK, even [inaudible] you'll feel it's their Betas there, but your brain still says, Mitochondria says let's, let's get efficient and moving this into the Kreb cycle into the electric transport chain and get it across. The complex is to make that ATP. Once you get that ATP production cognitive habits.

Chad: 32:03 So about a week was my experience. Um, it was, and what I would encourage people, what I wish I would've done, and I think you actually do this with your clients, maybe some form of it, my encourage you, my encouragement to people is to diary the process and writes down what you're experiencing, what you're feeling cognitively. Yeah. Because I feel like you can actually slip into this clarity energy state without noticing when it is over a weeks or a week and a half time, right? Because each day gets a little bit better. And it wasn't for, for me, it wasn't until

Chad: 32:40 like two or three weeks later and you and I are talking and you were explaining, you know, these are some of the things you're going to start to experience. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I am no longer having that afternoon, afternoon low. I didn't even notice it because you're just working like crazy. So to really, to really show your progress, I would really encourage anybody to just diary your thoughts, your feelings, your mood, your, um, what you experience at different moments of the day. And it will really show you the progress I should push that. I know I have a hard enough time getting everyone to do their fitness every day. Their workouts at Ata communicate to me every day. It's tough. It's like some people say, I already leave me alone or not enough. So that would be good. Especially on. It's a journey. It really is a journey.

Eric: 33:33 It's a lifestyle journey and hopefully it's one that's going to last forever and a big lifestyle change and you can actually help other people by, by what you write down what you've, um, experienced will progress is a huge motivator. And I think this is one point. Maybe this is why not very many people talk about it. But, um, this is one place where you could lose track of your progress, I think pretty easy because you just get feeling good and that's just it. That's how you feel. Now, you know, we're all about ketone production and if all our whole just to. This is just making the mitochondria and stronger. And I repeat that a lot, but there's no other nutrition program. Have you ever been taught that? If you went on this kind of caloric restriction diet or this Paleo, whatever it says, Hey, look what it has done, cellular watch liquid it has done in your mitochondria electron transport chain, your Kreb cycle, your intermediate starting to show itself sure as hell doesn't.

Eric: 34:34 Science is what's getting scary, not for us. It actually good is now your wrists, your cardiologists, your. Some of your best scientists out there are saying they're getting on the this keto train or whatever you want to call it, saying, hey, this makes sense to. You know, there's some really scholarly scientists out there that are writing books on it now and it's just getting bigger and bigger. It just. We got to do it right? Yeah. At least that's the biggest thing is that you're not doing a modified atkins and we won't go into all that. There's modified keto where you're a little higher. You take exogenous with it and we've got to go through the esters and the salts and all that. We'll talk about that another time, but a big w

Chad: 35:19 we are pushing the limits of our time here, but I just wanted to give you one last chance. Is there anything else that you want to make sure that our people, our audience are coming away from this episode with as far as it pertains to mental clarity and and Ketosis and I think there are a bunch of episodes that are that are going to spawn off

Chad: 35:38 of this episode that we can go into some detail about, which I love off awp also. Is she stumbling all over the place also? I'd love to get some people in here along with McKay's story, talking about their story around mental clarity, but is there anything that you want to close with? Do you want to make sure people understand?

Eric: 35:56 Yeah. Yeah. I think part of it is with those that are I, I coach. All right. Just the level of Beta hydroxy Beta it molecule. If you're point five and above, OK. Different Times of the day, you know, I, it's almost like a scale and you're like, oh, I'm point three. You're in a bad mood. OK, you're saying I'm not in Ketosis. Just remember that's a snapshot test in the afternoon because in the morning most people always test low. OK, that's just a rule of thumb, but I constantly in dealing with those that I coach at three, 4:00 afternoon, maybe early evening, that's usually your highest, you know, on Beta, so it don't get all wrapped up if you're not [inaudible], you know, I'm a point seven to one point one a Beta guy and I have plenty of energy. I have no, maybe I maybe. I really believe I'm producing more Mitochondria through my training through high intensity biogenesis. Mitochondria it, there's ways to do it. Increase your testosterone, so if I can do it at my age, I know through our plans we can get everybody ketosis and just make your mitochondria stronger.

Chad: 37:03 Yeah, I wish we could keep going. I love this conversation. Let's do more conversations based around this mental clarity because I think we should. We should make a more concerted effort to get this information out there so people understand what the therapeutic benefits of of Ketosis is. So thanks for biohack biohacking with us today and I want to thank you for joining us on this quest for optimal fitness. If you're ready to begin your own journey and live your life in Ketosis, be sure to check us out on biofitcoaching.com or biofit coaching on facebook. Lots of great conversations, helpful hints and tips there. And I also mentioned earlier our instagram, which is growing rapidly, a biofit coach at biofit coaching on Instagram as well. Also, if this podcast has helped you in any way or entertained you, we'd love for you to consider going on itunes or wherever you get your podcasts, to leave us a rating and a review. This helps us make better podcasts that helps us reach more people and we just love to hear from you. There's a lot of you out there listening and we just want to know where you're at, who you are, and have that connection and a thank you so much for listening. Until next time, Stay Keto!