12/30/18 Sunday Supp: Where is Keto Going?

Today's question comes from Oscar who wants to know which direction the keto movement is going next. Will the different opinions on what constitutes "keto" nutrition come together?

Eric self-identifies as "Orthodox Keto"

Are you practicing the art of dirty keto?

How Eric sees the different interpretations growing...

Keeping keto sustainable and affordable.

And why the ultimate goal is ketosis (even if different roads lead there).

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Chad: 00:06 So we're getting a lot of questions regarding the proper way to live life in ketosis. We have you covered in our midweek mini series called Sunday Supps. Every Sunday we have a quick supplemental episode where we answer your questions on all things Keto. So our question today comes from Oscar and Oscar asks, I'm curious about the direction you see keto, keto movement going. It seems like everyone has a slightly different interpretation on how to live keto, how to live the Keto lifestyle. Do you see it continuing that way or do you see the keto recommendations starting to homogenize more? It's a good question. This is a pretty hot topic right now.

Eric: 00:40 Yeah, that's, that's a real good question, Oscar. Um, and it's one that I, you know, I've been coaching for three years and I am seeing a big difference, uh, and the interpretation of how to live that Keto lifestyle is, is changing. Uh, it's becoming, you know, I'm, I'm more than conservative, you know, orthodox, but there's new ways, new methods, and it's what we call Oscar. And I think you're familiar with the words. It's called dirty keto and I don't really like that word dirty, but remember in Ketosis and as you know, you're obviously a ketosis. There's different ways of getting into Ketosis, so there's different foods that you consume to be in Ketosis, right? So you can do a a healthy way or you can do a non healthy way and so it is changing and it's getting to the point where I think a lot of people are eating, I'll use the word dirty keto, but they're doing it because it's bottom line We're all trying to, you know, keep it sustainable for yourself and so over the standard American diet. If you're going to keep the ketosis one, if you want it for fat loss, weight loss, or the therapeutic effect of ketones, you know, were you, you know, you want that Beta hydroxybutyrate molecule working for you. You can do it. You know what they classified the dirty keto, buy processed foods, prepackage fast foods, grain fed meat, vegetable oils, sodas. You know, keep track of your blood markers are macros. But I'm just saying if that's the journey that people have to take on their keto journey to keep a sustainable in, they're getting enough nutrients to outweigh a standard American diet and they're in Ketosis, then I, I, I, I can't argue with it. I, I'm, I'm happy that they're finding now part of their journey. Of course I'm more of a stricto keto, but I think there is going to be a lot of differences still coming and I don't, I don't think it's going to come together like it when it got started because anyway, you look at it, you know, you know what the macros have to be to be in Ketosis.

Eric: 02:56 So a lot of people are just saying, Hey, I liked my food bunless burgers. I like the Tortillas, you know, that are low carb with, you know, my tacos a, I'm on the go all the time. I don't have time to worry about what vegetable is they're being cooked in or what they're being used. Your salad dressings and I don't know if it's being grain fed or grass fed. I really don't care. And if it's prepackaged and easy, that's the way I can do it, and that's the way I keep a sustainable. So, and then, you know, then what's affordable organic veggies, affordable for people or grass fed meats, et cetera. So yeah, I think it's, um, the, the movement's going to go in different directions. And I think the final goal is to be in Ketosis. I'm, and I'm not sure if all roads lead to ketosis is the healthy way, but if your ultimate goal is Ketosis, then there's different ways of getting there.

Chad: 03:57 Yeah, I think it's, um, we can see this in the history of humans all around, right? There's a, there's, there's an idea or a doctrine that is presented and it's the, it's the foundation and then there's just a million schisms that just go out from it. And that's what we're going to continue to see. And we're going to see a lot of debating and bickering and ideas and theories, you know,

Eric: 04:22 it's getting that. It just like the exogenous ketones. There's people say, Hey, I've got exogenous ketones I'm taking them. I'm in Ketosis, but my carbs are here. My car, my fats are here, my proteins here and ah, you got to be careful. I mean there's, there's an issue of coordinating your fats with your carbs and which fats that you're, you're actually partaking of. So yeah, that's going to be an interesting to see how this is getting bigger. I, you agree Chad, right? I mean I coach it, I, I'm around it 24 seven and it's just growing and like I've always said the scientific research is just getting stronger and stronger, but, but they're also getting some backlash as people say, Oh, I look what you're doing and you're reading this and you're at fast food restaurants taken out bunless burgers all day. So they are getting some backlash on that so. And keto know there's people denouncing keto because of that and making it sound bad.

Chad: 05:16 Right, right. Yeah. There's a, there's, there's always going to be a, uh, an argument there, I guess, or a talking point there. So, um, great question though. I think. Yeah, I 100 percent agree. It's just going to get more and more diverse and the less we can fight it and try to make it as healthy for people as possible and then that's. That is the, that is the ultimate goal I think from your point of view and from my point of view.

Eric: 05:43 Then I think we, you and I discussed it. It's on our list for upcoming podcast, so I think it'd be a good subject to maybe move up on the calendar and get into it. You know, the, the good and the bad. That'd be great.

Chad: 05:56 Absolutely. Yeah. That'll be great. Thanks so much for biohacking with us today, Eric, and I want to thank you for joining us on this quest for optimal fitness. If you're ready to begin your own journey and live your life and Ketosis, be sure to check out biofitcoaching.com or Biofit coaching on instagram @Biofit_coaching. Lots of great stuff there from Eric, tips, tricks, recipes, all that kind of stuff. And until next time, stay keto.